Argentines who play for other national teams: would they make Argentina's squad?

If a player is qualified to play for a particular national side and he wants to and gets called up then that is fine with me. After all Argentina itself is a nation of immigrants is it not?

You can't blame Paletta, he was never going to be called up by Argentina so why not take this opportunity, it's might very well be the only one he gets to go to a world cup.

 

Looks like Paletta made the Italy 30 player list.

 

And Osvaldo didn't.

 

Osvlado has scored something like 2 or 3 goals this year, he didn't deserve to go.

 

Well, Paletta never made much of an impact in Argentina, I guess the Italians saw something in him that they liked.

 

I still like Zarate, I think he would've been an effective sub. He waited and waited. I'll tell you what, Chile got a bit better.

His oldest brother Sergio Raton, always cracked me up.

 

Ulloa appears to have accepted a call to Chile as well.

 

So, looks like Vazquez(Of Palermo and formerly of Belgrano) might end up playing for Italy. He came out and said, it is difficult to play for Argentina, he said if Conte calls him, then he would say yes.

 

Didn't you say his Mom was Italian? If so why not and good for him.

The real question here is italy... I've seen Vazquez in person, and I never thought of him as a crack, just a serviceable to above average primera division player for teams like Belgrano and that like. I never imagined him in a NT, neither Argentina nor Italy, or even playing in a big team.

I have a lot of affection towards italy, and i think they need to be worried... Their 3 best players are still the same 3 guys who won them the world cup 9 years ago, Pirlo, Buffon, and Totti. Where is the new Baggio? The new Del Piero? Because one thing is for sure, Ballotelli is a complete fraud

 

Indeed his mother was born in Italy, I believe in Padova, not sure where she grew up though. Vazquez has improved since those days of playing in Argentina, he has impressed a lot, every single time I watched him play, he has played well. His partnership with Dybala is quite nice. If you saw him 4 years ago or so, you should watch him now. Had a wonderful run earlier this season(links below) and scored a wonderful chip goal. Has 5 goals and 5 assists so far, he is always a part of the Palermo attack, when they threaten, he is a big part of it.





I don't have much of an issue with him jumping ship, he knows his chances for us is limited, but the way he has played this season might merit a call up. But again, space is so limited, what can he do? I don't have too much of a problem with first generation players playing for another country, i.e. Rossi. I just don't like the aspect of having 1 great-grandmother that was born in so and so. They need to close that loophole, first generation and that is it.

Italy just isn't developing the attackers that they once were(Or defenders? I mean seriously, taking Paletta to the World Cup?) and Conte doesn't seem to care. He will call up anybody who has a great-grandmother who was born in Italy(even for a couple hours) and that he can play. They have Insigne who isn't bad, Immobile who has yet to make an impact on the Bundesliga. Its a shame that a country with history for the game, and 4 world cup's would look to South American's as a sense of help. They do have a young Argentino who has represented them in the U17 level in Jose Mauri who is promising. I have caught only a single game of his and he had talent but again, just a single game, and going off reports. Plays for Parma right now.

 

Matías Nahuel is a promising young footballer that plays for Villarreal. Yet another Argentine talent born in Rosario. He moved to Spain at the age of 14, just like Messi, Cartabia, Icardi, etc...

He was called to the Spain U19 national team last year. He's had some appearances with the first team of Villarreal scoring some goals in the Europa League and Copa del Rey. His football idol is Carlos Tevez.

 

Yeah, I've read about him, but only time will tell. There are plenty of players that pop out of nowhere. They do not necessarily have to be a crack to become a good player. Playing for a Sub team for any country, even a high-profile country does not mean much for the progress of your career. Gerardo Bruna, played for Spain's U17 side, and I believe even our U20 team has vanished. This is a kid who was in the Real Madrid youth system and then moved to Liverpool when he got a bit older. Then after playing for Blackpool, went to Spain's 3rd division, then 3rd division in England and now plays for a team called Whitehawk FC(Which appears to be a 5th division team in England). Pretty sad if you ask me.

 

It is very sad, given all the promise in the world and they forget about you. You cannot develop in England, it's not a country where they develop their kids. Just look at their national team or sub teams, all terrible. Their best players in their league are foreign, the same goes for their managers. They need to just buy kids and loan them out.

And speaking of England not really building players and quitting on players.


Last summer, for example, a young Argentinian striker by the name of Facundo Ferreyra arrived on loan from Shakhtar Donetsk for the season. Ferreyra, 23, has yet to play and on Monday one source at the club described him as one of the worst players ever seen at this level.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nts-swap-Newcastle-United-Crystal-Palace.html

I mean, you have to be kidding me. I did reports that he wasn't progressing well in England, but that is something else.

 

LOL the english papers criticizing Ferreyra, meanwhile Jonas Gutierrez was a mainstay and is an idol to the fans... Look, I get Jonas was sick- many props and i am so happy that he overcame his sickness, cancer has hurt almost everyone's family including mine, but Jonas is a terrible footballer with no technical ability. Ferreyra meanwhile is a very gifted player with a huge skill set... Please no one take this the wrong way, I am 100% in support of Jonas in his recovery, but you can't mix personal shit with football and Ferreyra technically is 10x better than jonas, who for large parts of his career was incapable of even controlling a ball, yet they call the worst player they've seen, while jonas was a big part in Newcastle going to the B a few years ago.

 

I wonder what will happen if both Tata and Conte calls. I'm sure he'll play for Argentina as he has said he knows it will be difficult to play for Argentina. But, it is clear he is trying to make a push. No problem. He has been playing very well at Palermo. 6 goals and 6 assists in the Serie A , he will be on the move for sure. I'd be a shame if they do make the EL and they sell all their big players.

http://tn.com.ar/deportes/desafios/...mucho-jugar-para-la-seleccion-italiana_565502

 

http://www.football-italia.net/61900/vazquez-i-would-play-italy

 

Goal.com had an interesting article regarding some of the players that could play for Italy, if Conte moved quickly and offered them a spot. There are a bunch of Argentinean players, of course. The list is a bunch of young guys that would be in the mix for future plan, and its now reaching a level that FIFA should get involved and stop this sh#t;

Paulo Dybala (21 years old)
Diego Perotti (26 years old; has played for Argentina NT but only for 2 friendlies)
Jose Mauri (18 years old; has already played for U-17 Italy)
Ezequiel Munoz (24 years old; has played for U-17 Argentina & U-20 Argentina)
Joaquin Correa (20 years old)
Luciano Vietto (21 years old; U-20 Argentina)

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/7179...tto-italys-next-possible-oriundi?ICID=HP_BN_6

The article states that all these players are available to play for the Italian NT b/c they have duo-citizenship and have not played an official match for the Argentina NT.

Clearly the jewels in the list are Paulo Dybala and Luciano Vietto; who are young and well on their way to establishing themselves. Jose Mauri and Joaquin Correa are interesting. Not too concerned about losing Diego Perotti or Ezequiel Munoz.

 

Dybala has already made it clear he wants to play for Argentina and not for Italia. Vietto plays in La Liga, it would be pathetic if Conte travels to Spain to ask Vietto to come and play for the Azzurri. Might as well come to Argentina and begin to poach players from the primera.

Perotti, I can see switching over, he voiced his opinion in the past about not being called up. Jose Mauri who I have seen a game or two with Parma is an interesting prospect, he has played for them at the Sub level. If we give him a call for the U20 tournament who knows. Correa, I don't see him just switching over just like that, and again it would look sad on their part to cap a player who just arrived to Italia. I believe Muñoz will be moving to Milan in the summer, the deal with Palermo did not happen in time, but I believe there is a so-called gentleman's agreement that he will move from La Samp to Milan. He's been in Italy for a few years now, but he is still young enough to be called up. Does he fit in Tata's plan? I don't know, I haven't seen enough of him to say he merits a call, then again Funes Mori got called up, so who knows.