I don't know where you get the idea that Argentines dislike Italy. As far as the Italian immigrants go, don't get them started about 'la bella Italia'. They may often have issues with the Italian government but they love Italy. And, the rest of us who are not Italian, we got nothing against Italy. Italians are cool for the most part, and our culture has a huge Italian influence. The only thing Argentines in general don't like is the Italian style of football. The cynical defensive game that brings results but doesn't entertain, and that Italians seem to thrive on. Of course, I'm not saying there are no great italian players and teams, or that no Argentine teams ever play that way, but it does seem that more often than not Italy reverts to that cynical style, and it's come to represent them. In Argentina we feel our futbol differently, that's all. We don't like to win by destroying the game, we want to win and entertain and show off our skills, all at the same time.
I should have been clearer with my (foolish) assertion. Quite a few Argentines live in my neighborhood and many of them seem to dislike Italy because of all the problems that caused their families to leave in the first place... kind of like how some of the Italians I know who came to the United States are very dismissive of Italy as well. However, as you argue very well, this probably isn't the case for the majority of the Argentine population. Once again, I apologize for making generalizations in the name of curiosity.
you apology is accepted.... I'm just taking a tip from Gustavo Cerati song "Perdonar Es Divino" "A mi me es facil olvidar... ..tal vez puedas perdonar".
Argentine soccer fan, you put it so nicely!! KUDOS. VC FAN what he said is exactly what I have been trying to say on that other thread we started to get off so bad on, so please accept my apology as well and lets start new, cool.
Dario Cvitanich will get his croatian passport tomorrow, and he would accept playing for their national team. Oh well guess that wasn't finished after all...
too bad Daniel Bilos held out for a Nat. team spot for Argentina , cause now he'd be playing w/ Dario at least..
One thing Argentina doesn't make is good Pizza. It's a square type thing, that's loaded with extra food, that just tastes dry and crusted. I had my fair share of Pizza to. Even my aunt said New York Pizza tasted much better. "Es mui Rico" Italian Pizza and North American Pizza blow it out of the water. I was disappointed, but I don't lie about food. If it sucks, I won't eat it. Yes, I've been to Italy and Argentina and tasted Italian and Argentinian pizza. I do think North American Italian Pizza is better than even Italian Pizza.
I don't understand.. was this sarcasm? Argentine pizza is the shit! I don't know what pizza you tried! Note to future mod: anyone who insults good Argentine food gets a direct red card.
No it wasn't sacasm, read the rest of my post. What? you wanna fight with my taste buds now!? Bring it on!
I sort of got that idea too; that Argentines would prefer to all be ethnically German, Irish and Gallacian rather than Italian. But perhaps it is just a football thing. Personally Argentina is my favourite country of the Americas and Buenos Aires seems to be the Americas most culturally rich city, if I was forced to move to the Americas I'd choose either Argentina or Canada.
This is why we need that new forum Devilman was talking about. ---- Gives devilman a shot to the head first -- I win I think you guys are just offended, because someone in the ranks doesn't like the food they're proud of. XD I just got a problem with Pizza, that is all.
Read Argentine Soccer Fan's post on the page right before this one. It should probably clear things up for some of the confused Italians out there... it certainly did for me
I spent a month in Buenos Aires recently and went everywhere. Palermo, Nunez, Boca, etc. etc... I don't think so. I literally went to every corner of Buenos Aires. God can we stop talking about it, I miss it already. I never had to pay for a hotel. XD
I agree with Aerez, I don't like the pizza much in Argentina, now a deep dish pizza from Chicago, that is the stuff.
Matias Vuoso made his debut with the mexican NT, but in my opinion he is not NT material for Mexico either http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=854603
i just read this and have lost all respect for both posters, go to belgrano on monreo and cabildo best pizza ive ever had. you guys never had a fugaza. man things you hear theses days.
Hey I respect your opinion, but to me it is just too rich, sorry just my humble opinion. Many think Im nuts but I prefer the chipas from Paraguay, it is my taste buds right? So just my opinion. PS have you ever tried a deep dish pizza from the heart of Chicago?