Argentine squad for friendly

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by eldiablito, Jan 3, 2003.

  1. eldiablito

    eldiablito New Member

    Jun 8, 2000
    in Sagy's shadow
    Sorry if this has already been posted.
    http://www2.afa.org.ar/Notas/Notas.asp?Op=3300&CodNota=26846

    This link mentions who Bielsa called into camp for the friendlies against Mexico, Honduras, and US. It also mentions that Delgado didn't show up for camp. The Argentine media speculates that it is because he's 29 and realistically doesn't have a chance to play in the next world cup.

    From the article these players are listed (I must confess I am not familiar with any of them):

    Sebastián Saja, Andrés D´Alessandro, César Carignano, Wilfredo Caballero, Nicolás Burdisso, Sebastián Battaglia, Ariel Garcé, Leonardo Poncio, Clemente Rodríguez, Lucas Pusineri, Diego Milito, Luis González, Leandro Romagnoli, Mariano Gozález, Pablo Guiñazú, Gabriel Milito and Federico Insúa.
     
  2. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    You're not alone. Well, maybe except Caballero.
     
  3. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You will know about them soon. And not just by seeing them against the US. Alot of these players will be in europe soon(maybe even in a few weeks). D´Alessandro has been linked to Barca and Juve, Diego Milito has been rumoured to move to the EPL, Romagnoli is a future star, and Gabriel Milito is one of Argentina's best defenders and should be on his way to europe very shortly. I'm surprised Fernando Cavenaghi(Argentina's top scorer) wasn't selected for the friendly.
     
  4. roarksown1

    roarksown1 Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Playa del Rey, CA
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, you will be hearing a LOT about D'Alessandro as soon as he lands in Europe. He's amazing to watch: solid and creative on the ball, has an amazing shot with either foot, has incredible vision to find the open man, etc., etc. The kid is simply good.

    We do so much touting here about Donovan and he's not even close to this kid. Not by a mile. Just wait and see. It's gonna be a great match.
     
  5. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is also "our" Argentinian, Pablo Mastroeni.
     
  6. mnarce

    mnarce New Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    This is a group of young but very talented argentinians. D'Alessandro is dubbed to be the next Maradonna, Milito is a great defender who is said to be going to Barca very soon, then you have Burdisso, Battaglia, etc. All are good, probably 70% will be going to Europe soon. This will be a good test for the USA, it is sure to be a hard and entertaining match.
     
  7. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia
    I just bought a World Soccer mag and there's a page entitled "Talent Scout: Argentina." It has the ten best players in their domestic league and a little description by them. BTW, its in no particular order.

    1. Sebastian Battaglia - Boca Juniors - 80' - "Strong midfielder with plenty of fight and stamina who stands out both in attack and defence."

    2. Carlos Alberto Tevez - Boca Juniors - 84' - "Has been an excellent replzcement for Juan Roman Riquelme, now at Barcelona, as a playmaker and third striker."

    3. Gabriel Milito - Independiente - 80' - "Independiente, winners of the opening championship, had their achilles heel in defence. But Milito was the back-line savior on numerous occasions."

    4. Martin Demichelis - River Plate - 80' - "Has stood out in River's defence, while his liking for setting up attacks has also been to the fore."

    5. Andres D'Alessandro - River Plate - 81' - "Already outstanding last season, he has been a marked man and treated rather roughly by opponents who know all too well that he easily reacts to provocation. Yet he was again a stalwart and playmaker this term until suffering in the general decline of his team in the latter stages of the championship race."

    6. Guillermo Pereyra - River Plate - 80' - "Stood out in his team's midfield, showing experience beyond his age."

    7. Fernando Cavenaghi - River Plate - 83' - "Tournament top scorer last season, he has not been so prolific this term, though he suffered from a lack of continuity in striking partners." As a sidenote, there is an exchange student from Argentina at my school who has played with this guy before. He said this guy is amazing at finding the net 20 yards or so and in. You could say he's a "natural" goalscorer.

    8. Alejandro Dominguez - River Plate - 81' - "Dangerous forward acquired at the start of the season. He did not reach his full potential at River mainly because he was not given enough chances in the first team."

    9. Roberto Nanni - Velez Sarsfield - 81' - "Explosive young striker and his team's leading scorer, but a victim of his team's general decline in the opening championship."

    10. Cesar Carignano - Colon Santa Fe - 82' - "Second highest scorer in the opening campaign and a standout in his middle-of-the-table team. Sure to be snapped up by a bigger club sooner rather than later."

    Eric Weil is the name of the guy who wrote all this in World Soccer magazine. Its the January 2003 edition on page 11.
     
  8. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    "From the article these players are listed (I must confess I am not familiar with any of them):"

    dont you have fox sports??

    Andrés D´Alessandro: will be a star in europe, he will be like zidane in a few years just watch
    Leandro Romagnoli: will be a star in europe
    Gabriel Milito: same
     
  9. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia

    Yeah but in Argentina, just about every good young attacking player is dubbed the next Maradona.
     
  10. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    sorry but maradona himself said that Pablo Aimar is his succesor (and he plays in europe)
     
  11. I prefer Romagnoli to D'Alessandro because he's stronger & willing to come back into the defensive half. Romagnoli is still rounding into form after missing most of 2002 with a knee injury. He's a more physical playmaker in the mold of Zidane, or Riquelme.

    D'Alessandro is good, he is not the next Dieguito. Compared to Donovan, D'Alessandro is more skillful on the ball & maybe a bit quicker. Donovan is faster, stronger & fitter. D'Alessandro can be bumped off his game easily, and he will have a tough time with Mastroeni.

    One player I'm surprised no one mentioned is Clemente Rodriguez. He's short (5'5"), but speedy, scrappy & tireless on the left side. I'm looking forward to see him & Ben Olsen go against one another. Lucas Pusineri had a nice season for the champs Independiente as well. I like the way Bielsa picked this squad. Much like Il Bruce, he has rewarded players who may not be household names, but are playing well like Cello Delgado (too bad he's taking a pass).
     
  12. Dustinho

    Dustinho Member

    May 12, 2000
    So Cal
    Can someone refresh my memory. When is the Mexico/Argentina match in LA?
     
  13. El Cabrito

    El Cabrito Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Ca
    Can someone refresh my memory. When is the Mexico/Argentina match in LA?




    Feb 4th I belive...
     
  14. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    I'm not really worried about D'Allessandro vs Donovan (even though it would be fun to see them try to one up the other on the spectacular). Its the fact that other than Pope, none of our defenders will have seen anything like What Argentina brings to the table. OK they've played against Landon, but I don't think they've ever had to play 4 Landon's at a time. Just through shock favtor I'd suspect that Argentine will score 3 - 4 goals. Of course, with LD, Convey, DMB, and Mathis our attacking players are also impressive. If both teams play well andthis just might be the most entertaining match of the year for the US. Especially since there is no pressure on either team.
     
  15. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be surprised if either team gets shut out. In fact, I'd be surprised if either team gets held to only one goal...
     
  16. mnarce

    mnarce New Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Willydonc I was thinking the same thing about Clemente Rodriguez and Olsen, it will a nice battle to watch during the game. I'm not so sure about this game being a high scoring one. The US will play their game and I'm sure they won't be overwhelmed by any means, I was say a 2-1 going either way.
     
  17. Preston North End

    Feb 17, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I posted this back on 1/28/2002...my post is at the bottom of the page...see this link...

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25224

    Argentina Squad...

    Code:
    Player		Club	           DOB	HT	WT
    G	 Wilfredo 	Caballero	Boca Juniors	9/28/1981	-	-
    G	 Sebastián Saja	San Lorenzo	6/5/1979	6-4	185
    D	 Nicolás 	Burdisso	Boca Juniors	4/12/1981	5-8	170
    D	 Ariel 	Garcé	River Plate	7/14/1979	5-10	155
    D	 Gabriel 	Milito	Independiente	9/7/1980	5-9	155
    D	 Leonardo 	Ponzio	Newell´s Old Boys	1/29/1982	5-8	155
    D	 Clemente 	Rodríguez	Boca Juniors	7/31/1981	-	-
    M	 Sebastián Battaglia	Boca Juniors	11/8/1980	5-11	175
    M	 Andrés 	D´Alessandro River Plate	4/15/1981	5-4	120
    M	 Mariano 	González	Racing Club	5/5/1981	5-9	165
    M	 Luis 	González	River Plate	1/19/1981	-	-
    M	 Pablo 	Guiñazú	Independiente	8/26/1978	5-8	160
    M	 Federico 	Insúa	Independiente	1/3/1980	5-10	160
    M	 Lucas 	Pusineri	Independiente	7/16/1976	5-10	160
    M	 Leandro 	Romagnoli	San Lorenzo	3/17/1981	-	-
    F	 César 	Carignano	Colón	           9/28/1982	-	-
    F	 Marcelo 	Delgado	Boca Juniors	3/24/1973	5-9	165
    F	 Diego 	Milito	Racing Club	2/12/1979	6-2	170
    No younger studs - such as Tevez or Cavenaghi - since the CONMEBOL U20 WCQ will be taking place just before USA-ARG play; though the U20 WCQ's end on 1/28/03 some more players could be brought in.

    This is the squad Argentina is bringing for all three of their games in the U.S.

    It is essentially an U23 side.

    No more crap about how small DaMarcus Beasley is, okie-dokie! Look at how "big" D'Allesandro is.

    I didn't watch any games from the latest Argentine league. Can somebody throw out a possible starting XI in a proper formation?
     
  18. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    he is 5"4'' 120????? Is that accurate??? Most 8th and 9th graders are bigger than him
     
  19. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
    this is the future of Argentina
     
  20. Preston North End

    Feb 17, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, 120 is correct.

    Most U14 players don't have the ball skills, vision, and most importantly, the speed that D'Allesandro has.

    Frankly, size does not matter, it's what you can do that does.

    Although, would you rather have a D'Allesandro that is 5-4, 120 or one that is 6-2, 175 (see Michael Ballack, but faster)?
     
  21. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    As DaMarcus Beasley and Landon Donovan proved in the world cup. As for the 2nd its purely a matter of style. I'd personally rather have a D'Allessandro type player as my A-Mid, becasue he'd probably be better at leading a counter or if all else fails, just dribbling at a defense.
     
  22. sparafucile2000

    May 13, 2002
    Boston
    US Squad

    Anyone know what the US Squad will be? Any of the Euros coming over, or is it definitely another MLS "evaluation" squad?

    Oh, and where's Eddie Pope?
     
  23. Re: US Squad

    It will be the same sort of squad that played against Canada. Who knows about Eddie Pope?
     
  24. El_Maestro

    El_Maestro Member

    Jun 5, 2002
    Planet Earth
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil

    Follow Argie league with passion and read their papers daily, here's my formation

    Saja

    Garce
    G. Milito
    Burdisso
    Rodriguez

    Battaglia
    Pusineri
    Romagnoli
    Insua

    D'Alessandro
    D. Milito


    Marcelo Delgado of course would be there as a starter but as you know, he quit the national team.
     
  25. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Blessed with Fox Sports World, I've watched A LOT of D'Alessandro, and he is unbelievable. What a talent. He can do everything in the middle of the field.

    And Landon Donovan is much better than D'Alessandro right now.

    Don't sell our boys short.
     

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