Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  2. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
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  3. aerez

    aerez Member+

    Jul 8, 2006
    No time to be a hardcore fan like I use too. Love football but watching all the games was a waste of time. This is why I don't criticize or discuss anymore.
     
  4. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, I get that. But personally, I’d rather watch an up and coming player than watch Messi play for PSG or any other established player. It’s great seeing them develop.
     
  5. aerez

    aerez Member+

    Jul 8, 2006
    #18230 aerez, Feb 4, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2023
    I still watch up and coming players, learn through the grapevine and watch their progress through 15 minute highlights. Just slower to learn about what's coming and about the intricacies to their game and how they specialize. Messi I just keep up with his highlights. I'm trying to watch more River now, at least keep up with football and have a team to follow: and watch games in Champeons League. European football just isn't the same like it use to be; also I could never get into the premiere league. So highlights are good enough. I don't even have time to watch North American sports anymore.
     
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  6. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    To be fair, Hakimi was great recently, including his WC performance. The team as a whole can look so random. Remember that it is a team that actually rely on speed (setting up Mbappe to sprint) before Messi joined, they're never a team that could dominates possession like prime Barca or Man city.

    I still think it would be hard for them to win the CL due to their fragile defence. they continuously conceided even when they win. They could reach semi or even final but you just have that feeling they'd eventually crumble against teams like Liverpool, Bayern and RM.
     
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  7. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    7 goals + 4 assists in 14 games for him. I actually think he could play Messi's role in upcoming matches for us, but it seems that he'd still start from the bench because Messi decided to continue.

    Angel Correa scored , but Atletico Madrid is like a sinking ship these days.
     
  8. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    With Messi, Lautaro, Julian, Dybala, Garnacho, Di Maria and Nico I can see Scaloni trying a few things. 10 matches this year plus a few more before next year's Copa is a decent chunk to experiment and continue to evolve. I also think Scaloni and his team probably look at the form/quality of these forwards plus a world class set of mids, centre-backs and a GK who's basically a cheat code in tournament settings and they surely see an opportunity for a historic run here (Copa 24, WC 26).
     
  9. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Buonnanotte played as well yesterday and looked more than at ease in his cameo.

    Mac Allister is being linked with Manchester City. Licha had another monstrous performance again yesterday.
     
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  10. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Great header and goal by Lautaro!
     
  11. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lautaro!! He is on a roll since WC ended
     
  12. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He scored a second but was offside, similar to the KSA goal. Really strange offside, his fingers were off or something like that…
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    They really need to fix that bs offside rule this is ridiculous
    Do strikers have to take their arms behind their back
     
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  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    With the BS VAR, Crespo & InZaghi would be lucky to score 5 goals per season.
     
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  15. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't think Diego's first goal against England in '86 would have stood if VAR had been around then :) :) :)
     
  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    True , but neither does England's winner in 1966 final or Brazil's hand goal equalizier in Copa 1995 against Argentina . Plus, every team would have finished with 8-10 men for their tackles on Diego who was fouled 100+ times in WC 1986 & 1990 alone. Fenwick blatant elbow to Maradona's face for intense, went unpunished.
     
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  17. aerez

    aerez Member+

    Jul 8, 2006
    #18242 aerez, Feb 6, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2023
    Your comment made me go down the rabbit hole a bit for past games.
    Here's the 1995 disallowed goal.


    While I was looking for that game, someone mentioned that Dunga during that time as a player said "The winners celebrate, the losers look for excuses.” He would then lose to Peru in 2016 as Brazil's coach to a hand ball. Talk about Karma.


    Futhermore, while I was digging online, I came across this:
    https://www.rsssf.org/rssbest/copa95qf.html

    This is an archive of newsgroup or some back and forth email. Most likely just archived newsgroup discussion, but basically how people communicated before forums were a thing.
    Interesting to see discussions that old, about this game, just like we chat here or people chat on social media.

    If there's any bad stuff in it, sorry, I haven't read through most of it. It seems like it's just discussion of the game.

    https://www.rsssf.org/ Also check out the site, it's pretty neat. Old School internet hahah.
     
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  18. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If Lautaro had rediscovered his form as a sub in Qatar, we would’ve won all of our matches with ease. I’m glad he’s finally found his groove. A shame that Inter did not get Dybala, instead they got an overweight Lukaku, who can’t stay healthy anymore. With a Dybala and Lautaro partnership, they could possibly be contending for the title, or at least making it somewhat interesting. Oh well.


    Retegui is being linked to European clubs. I believe a lot of it is just selling smoke since the clubs that are being linked to him are United, Madrid, Munich and etc. If and when he does make the move, I’d rather see him in some smaller sides first. Plus, I’d take on Colidio as well, who he has a really great partnership with. Maybe another run in Europe will be good for Facundo.


    But I would hope this Scaloni just gives him a consideration when the friendlies come to life over the next few months. He doesn’t have to be named to the final 26-28 but call him up to camp. It wouldn’t hurt have another promising forward in our midst.
     
  19. Patoeber

    Patoeber Member

    Argentina
    Apr 3, 2014
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #18244 Patoeber, Feb 6, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2023
    Yup. VAR should take the player's feet as reference, of course they are going to position their body forward. Give the attackers some advantage, we want more goals!
     
  20. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    In Italy it's semi-automated system they used at the world cup, I'm in favour of it, but for that our 3rd goal would have been ruled out for offside in the w-c final.
     
  21. DrScorpio

    DrScorpio Member

    San Lorenzo
    Argentina
    Jan 6, 2022
    This would generate the same problems, except the discussion would be if the one millimeter of the toe is offside or not.
     
  22. Patoeber

    Patoeber Member

    Argentina
    Apr 3, 2014
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I mean the feet of the attacker, not the defender. That's the advantage I'm asking for.
    You'll always have to draw the line at some point either way. If you allow 5mm, then 6mm offsides will generate controversy and so on. At least my proposal would help the attackers in some situations.
     
  23. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I know he's going through some medical problems, but it is great to see the Kaiser up and about.

     
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  24. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USA is trying to schedule Argentina friendly

     
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  25. ganapordiego

    ganapordiego Member

    Estudiantes de La Plata
    Argentina
    Jul 10, 2021
    Saw that they were looking to do so in the fall. I’d be happy with that as I’m not in a hurry for qualifiers to start.

    Also regarding friendlies, no Belgium in March as they’ll be playing Germany for their second game. So looking like Conmebol or AFC. My guess is we’ll schedule a couple easy ones like Bolivia & Venezuela for the March celebration and then will do AFC friendlies in the summer.
     
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