Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

So… why isn’t Cuti playing today for Tottenham? He’s not even on the bench. Did he have to quarantine or something?

 

Gonzalo Higuain on Argentina winning the Copa America: "It was a lot of years and the previous bunch of players set the bar high playing 3 finals. It did me well listening to Leo." This via ESPN.

— Roy Nemer (@RoyNemer) September 16, 2021

lol Pipita, you "set the bar" alright

 

You hear that Pocho...

 

The only thing Fatso set the bar high on was on how plates of food he can eat.

 

I like Higuain as a player. He was a great 9 for Argentina. Unfairly treated. I know im alone in this.

We tend to treat good players like crap (biggest case in point: Messi. But also: Di Maria) and in extreme cases we bully them into oblivion. Pipita didnt deserve it.

 

Negative. Fatso came off as a player who felt he did no wrongs and as fans we owed him for his service. That’s the problem. At least players like ADM and Kun had made comments that they did not perform to their best and they owe the national team. And now you can see Fatso is making comments that he set the bar high and this and that. Like he is some legend. He deprived us on trophies because he was mentally weak and couldn’t finish sitters. But whatever, we’ve continued to be a much better team since he’s been gone. Color me surprised.

In 2007 he skipped the U20s because he wanted to go on vacation and he didn’t get called up in 2008 for the Olympics and guess what? We won both of those. And now we won the latest CA without him as well.


Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty we are free at last.

 

Thats the problem with Pipita. Kun, Angelito, Messi always felt they're in debt (even though injuries & bad luck are out of their hands). Higuain never admitted his bad performances,, instead he keeps reminding people of his goal against Belgium. Remember that horrible against Nigeria? Rojo's goal saved him from 4 straight humiliations.

I remember it took him sometime to decides between France & Argentina... Unlucky for us, he chosed Argentina. Players like Messi, Kun, Angelito, Masche , even Dybala would picked Argentina in less than a heartbeat. Messi & Dybala in particular, could easily made it to first team of Spain & Italy.

Kun & Angelito chances in 2007 & 2008 finals were 1 vs 1 after receiving a perfect pass from Banega & Messi, and we all know Higuain aint finishing that.

 

We never bully the other guys to oblivion though, we often put big part of the blame on the manager aswell.

Even when we wants Messi to be dropped, thats because we dont want him to get hurts further by the critics and the fans who keeps saying he's not good enough at international level, when in reality, its the entire team thats not good enough.

Higuain also had big adventage since many of our coaches prefers to starts him over Kun. Majority of Aguero's cap was as a sub due to Higuain presence.

 

Sure but again, he at least acknowledged his shortcomings and his willingness to continue to fight. ADM, I think he proved us all wrong, and I’m fine with that. I can admit it I was wrong about wanting his return. And that’s all it takes.

Look, dude, I get it, he’s a gallina but you’ve pretty much have always come to his defense. Had he been a bostero… basta, loco, please.

I have no problems with the other provinces getting matches. How often will they get to see this match be played? BsAs will have Uruguay and Peru prior to that.

 

I know where you’re getting it. But as I said, how often will the people of SJ get to see a World Cup qualifier between us v Brasil? Politics or not, I think the fans out there will be thrilled about this.

 

Anytime I crack a joke about some River player, here you come barging in here defending them, Armani, Enzo for example. Half the time I do it to break your balls…


By the way, I think Alvarez is going to be special. I know you’re not as high on him as some of us but the kid is going to be very good. His next move his critical for his development.

 

Neither was Lo Celso. I think they have to quarantine for 14 days since returning.

The Emi's (Buendia and Martinez) also couldn't play on the weekend.

 

Really nice goal and I'm really looking forward to Palacios taking a big step forward this year. He should be a great depth player for the NT and eventual starter. Happy for him!

 

Who will he replace as a starter? I think Scaloni is pretty content with Paredes, Gio and RDP.

 

Maybe in a couple years, or if we have some injuries or fatigue to deal with. Its important to have depth. 3 MF starters is not enough.

The important thing is that Palacios continues to develop and push those three you mentioned to be the best they can be, or else one will sit. I like how well rounded Palacios' game can be. He can defend, tackle, dribble, pass, create, and shoot. Really all around midfielder. Just needs to continue to get better.

 

I’ll be honest… I thought Palacios would be much further in his career by now. Injuries and a manager not playing him have slowed down his growth. Granted, he’s 22(About to be 23) he’s still got time. But the time should be now. I hope he has a better season.

 

Palacio is a player with much upside potential, but needs to learn his best fit on the pitch. I don't know if has yet found his best midfield position. Perhaps being Argentinean, at first he wanted to be the South American "10" - but imo, when he plays up the pitch its not his best role. He really should watch guys like RDP and develop into a box-to-box midfielder, maybe more hybrid between a #6 & #8.

 

Oh, im not a gallina at all. If anything, i rooted for estudiantes since the Sabella days. But its true what you guys say that Higuain never acted like he was at fault, like other players like Di Maria did. I still think we judge them too harshly, though. This isnt about clubs, but about how we treat players in general. Messi and Di Maria reedemed themselves cause they are amazing players (and Messi is a Soccer God) and cause they have an unrelentless fighting spirit, but not everyone can be like that. That golden generation that reached 3 finals in 3 years got payed dust in general (except for the obvious exceptions)

Di Maria had to endure to be called every insult under the sun by the fans and sport journalists for years and years, even when he was always at least very good for the NT (i still think we wouldnt have lost the WC final with him) and he had to score the winning goal in the Copa America final in the freaking Maracana against Brasil to be redeemed?? Like, thats an almost impossible task, he should have been "reedemed" earlier (or never be insulted at all) cause he is excellent and he always fights for the NT