Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

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  1. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Argentina has been in 28 Copa finals and 7 times semifinalists. They will always be hot favorite by default. It doesnt matter who's playing, they'll usually make it to last 4 or a final. 28 finals and we only win half of them, and surprisingly Brazil record in a final is actually worst, winning only 9 out of 20 finals, but no doubt they've been better since 1994.

    I remember in 2015, we didnt actually played well, narrow wins at group stage, needed a shootout in QF but still ended up reaching the final.

    But winning the final itself or beating Uruguay and Brazil at KO stage is another thing. They've been unable to do it for many years. As Simeone said recently, opponents like Germany and Brazil are simply stronger mentally than Argentina, that's a fact.
     
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  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Sorry to hear that, I lost my aunt few weeks ago from melanoma , it hasnt been a good year for sure.:notworthy:
     
  3. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My condolences... stay strong, my friend. Always here if you need someone to chat with.
     
  4. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    @afar I’m truly for your loss. As loco said, try to stay strong.
     
  5. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Thank you, Duchene, Rattlehead, loco, SupaMario.

    Hope your families and you all are keeping safe and well.
     
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  6. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry for your loss. :( I hope he gets to celebrate a big Argentina win soon wherever he is now.
     
  7. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Copa America 2021 is the task for Argentina in the sense of either title or bust so basically a must win because when was the last time Argentina won a Copa America title? I would say you guys are long overdue for a win
     
  8. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    @afar I'm very sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what you are going through. I hope your father rests in peace.
     
  9. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    I am really sorry for your loss also @afar
     
  10. Duchene2Mackinnon

    Duchene2Mackinnon New Member

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    They're definitely not favourites as of now Brasil has a better team top to bottom. But they can win with the right attitude and system.
     
  11. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Dybala and Aguero leading the line with Messi playing behind them to support
     
  12. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Thank you, guys, all of you. Really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.
     
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  13. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    We are on the cusp of being a really great team, I feel, with promising young defenders and a good midfield as well. Just have to put it all together.
     
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  14. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Of course and 2021 well will be the first true test in Copa America
     
  15. Moaiyad

    Moaiyad New Member

    Argentina
    Oct 18, 2018
    Hi guys
    I would like to ask your opinion about the midfielder player (Palacios), I’ve heard so many things about him in a couple of years ago that he’s well skilled player and there some negotiations by Rial Madrid to get him aboard. If I’m not mistaken, he was called by Scaloni earlier but then He got an injury & left the squad. With whom of our old x players you guys can compare him with? Is he in level of ( Gago & Banaga) or in level of ( Cambiasso - Lotcho)?

    In fact I missed watching him, as I’m not a good watcher of Argentina league despite it’s great league but the issue I encountering is the time difference.
     
  16. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    For me, Palacios will probably get recalled for Copa America 2021
     
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  17. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Palacios is a fantastic player.. probably somewhat of a combination of all 4 players you mentioned, I guess you could say.

    Vision and pressing are key to his style of play, and he also has a pretty decent long range shot. The kid runs his ass off throughout the game but is also elegant with the ball.

    He has been considered highly by Scaloni from the very beginning of his cycle as NT coach, so unless something happens from now til CA you should expect to see Exequiel in the squad
     
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  18. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Argentina defense looks solid enough
     
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  19. Duchene2Mackinnon

    Duchene2Mackinnon New Member

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I liked it him in the games I've seen so far. Not the passer of Gago/Banaga level. More of a pressing machine ala vidal. I think honestly he resembles Modric most but probably won't ever be on the same level. Watched him in Germany too but now rarely ever play woke up this morning to see a glimpse and wasn't even on the bench. Hopefully, he settles in soon but this doesn't bode well for him. Germany is not looking like a good destination for Argentinians right now, at first I welcomed the wave of Albiceleste players going there but no one has really progressed there. Even Ascacibar looked like a cant miss talent, who hasnt been playing bad but played on a shit team that got relegated, now with Hertha.
     
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  20. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Palacios playing with Messi...he could definitely benefit from that
     
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  21. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'm not too sure about the defense being solid enough. The only lock in the defensive line is Tagliafico. The GK will probably be Armani (he certainly gained the confidence of being the Arg. NT's 1st choice GK). For the rest of the defense, I don't think none are guaranteed of being 1st choice.

    I would assume that Quarta will be one of the 1st choice CBs, but as usual with Argentinian coaches, they sometimes make illogical choices and Scaloni can choose either Rojo or Otamendi (or worse, both at the same time)

    Team chemistry and knowing the playstyle of your teammates, especially for defense, is so important. This is especially true when you consider the time you practice together with your teammates is very limited for international teams. For me, I hope Lisandro Martinez joins the Copa 21 and be Quarta's CB partner.

    ------------------Armani
    Montiel---Quarta---L. Martinez---Tagliafico

    From what I've seen, I believe that Quarta and L. Martinez can play well together and plus you have the the River Plate team chemistry with Armani, Montiel and Quarta while you have the Ajax team chemistry with L. Martinez and Tagliafico.
     
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  22. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    A bit disappointing that Palacios hasn’t seen any action since Germany has started up again. He didn’t even make the bench.
     
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  23. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    But then the real problem is up front at the forward/striker line because other than Messi like you have Dybala, Lautaro, Aguero, Icardi, etc so the depth is there but you have to choose between which will partner up with Messi
     
  24. Duchene2Mackinnon

    Duchene2Mackinnon New Member

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    They have more than enough options to make it work. I personally feel Perez in some capacity should be there along with Lisandro. Although I would settle if that's the right for that back line. Its the best line Argentina has seen in years.

    It's beyond a piss off. I scoured through the net to see if he carried a knock like Santiago but found nothing. What's worse is that he's looked really good in the limited amount of games played. When you consider that they have start a 17 year old kid in the midfield it begs the question why the ******** did you buy Palacios. FML. SIdenote, though Kai is a gem of a player. Looks to be a true elite talent.
     
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  25. Ofori

    Ofori Member

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Palacios is still young...only 21 about to be 22
     

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