Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lol slow your roll… Scaloni has made mistake after mistake: just because he won everything doesn’t mean his decision making should be accepted blindly.

    That’s like saying we should have had faith in Scaloni for prioritizing Joaquin Correa as the backup 9 ahead of Julian. It was complete madness, and if Joaquin hadn’t gotten injured at the time we could very likely not be WC champs today.

    Same for Dibu taking Armani’s starting spot just because of Pulpo having a positive COVID test before the start of Copa America... or Enzo pretty much being ignored until Lo Celso’s injury forced Scaloni to call him up shortly before the WC.

    Right now his constant calling up of Acuña is baffling, as was his obsession with Pezzella at one point. He is not immune to making bad decisions, and actually has quite the track record of it.

    Although he obviously deserves credit, a lot of chance variables have saved Scaloni on multiple occasions as well. I think it’s more than fair to question his decision making and believe we should be doing so if we want to keep on winning titles
     
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  2. Montoro10

    Montoro10 Member

    Barca
    Argentina
    Aug 18, 2025
    Scaloni insta infallible but he does get a lot of flack on here way more than deserved considering everything.
     
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  3. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Now, you are putting words into my mouth lol. I never said that we should be blindly accept all of his decision. Having a little bit more faith in him, that's all.

    At the end of the day, he still made the correct final decisions for most of the situation that you mentioned and now he is arguably the best international coach in the history of football with those decisions.

    Acuña is a big mistake imo, but we have discussed this multiple times in this forum, the LB position is the position where depth is seriously lacking.
     
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  4. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Scaloni right now somewhere in La Coruña if the AFA had money in 2018...

    [​IMG]

    There are a lot of players who have no business going to this tournament but Scaloni wants to keep the boys happy.
     
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  5. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Senesi is simply not a high quality player. He'll give you a good game here and there but the guy struggled against some African side that nobody can find on a map. Plus, when I look at hime, I do see a player that is confident. He does not have that fear factory. In fact, he comes off as a player who hopes that does not commit a mistake. He's clumsy at times, doesn't read the game all that well, flatfooted and slow. I've seen enough of his candy ass with the seleccion where I say, "I'm good..." I am trying to think when was the last time he had a good match for us...
     
  6. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Cómo sería la lista preliminar con 55 jugadores de la Selección Argentina para el Mundial
    https://www.tycsports.com/seleccion...dial-a-un-mes-de-ser-presentada-id723326.html



    Oragnize this for me--- Hasta el momento, según pudo saber TyC Sports, salvo algún imprevisto, el entrenador ya tiene 22 de los 26 nombres de la nómina. Estos son:

    Arqueros

    1: Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa)

    2: Gerónimo Rulli (Olympique de Marsella)

    Defensores

    3: Nahuel Molina (Atlético de Madrid)

    4: Gonzalo Montiel (River)

    5: Cristian Romero (Tottenham)

    6: Lisandro Martínez (Manchester United)

    7: Leonardo Balerdi (Olympique de Marsella)

    8: Nicolás Otamendi (Benfica)

    9: Nicolás Tagliafico (Olympique de Lyon)

    Mediocampistas

    10: Leandro Paredes (Boca)

    11: Alexis Mac Allister (Liverpool)

    12: Enzo Fernández (Chelsea)

    13: Rodrigo De Paul (Inter Miami)

    14: Nico González (Atlético de Madrid)

    15: Exequiel Palacios (Bayer Leverkusen)

    16: Nicolás Paz (Como)

    17: Thiago Almada (Atlético de Madrid)

    Delanteros

    18: Giuliano Simeone (Atlético de Madrid)

    19: Lionel Messi (Inter Miami)

    20: Julián Álvarez (Atlético de Madrid)

    21: Lautaro Martínez (Inter)

    22: José López (Palmeiras)


    Marcos Acuña (River) y Gabriel Rojas (Racing) son los que pelean. Más atrás está el Colo Barco, actualmente volante pero con pasado como número 3.


    Madness from Scaloni...
     
  7. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Having watched several of his game at Bournemouth, Senesi can perform much better for the national team.

    I honestly have Anselmino above Senesi, but as a 3rd/4th CB option, Senesi is good.
     
  8. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The LB option is very concerning. I really do think that we may need to consider Licha as a potential back up LB option or just go with the back 3 if Tagliafico is injured/suspended.
     
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  9. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I just don’t understand his love for Lo Celso. He’d leave Colo at home who can play multiple positions for an average player who has been injured most of the year.
     
  10. Montoro10

    Montoro10 Member

    Barca
    Argentina
    Aug 18, 2025
    And we wouldnt have gotten any of the trophies without him. He gave Otamendi a new lease on life. His masterclass in 2021 final is one for the ages as is the one against France.
     
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  11. Montoro10

    Montoro10 Member

    Barca
    Argentina
    Aug 18, 2025
    lol Anselmino is hurt again. I have given up on him for now. He's young still but there's zero reason to think he can stay healthy for any meaningful amount of time.
     
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  12. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I do prefer Colo over Lo Celso in the LCM role, but Lo Celso is still a quality player who can make an impact.

    Think there is space for both in the squad.
     
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  13. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    How come you only mentioned Otamendi... here's arguably the best comeback from any player in history, thanks to Scaloni.

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #29814 Rattlehead, Apr 11, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2026
    At the end of the day, its all about trophies. Unless some people are satisfy with u20 and Olympics, they can keep glorifying Bielsa and Pekerman.

    I do think Otamendi shouldnt be on the squad, but at least he's dare to relegated him to the bench in CA 2024 and he's also willing to starts Nico Paz instead of RDP.
     
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  15. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RDP just got torched by some nobody kid on the Red Bulls. I don't think he's World Cup ready.
     
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  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    To be fair, RDP spot is guarenteed by Tapia, not Scaloni.
     
  17. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Who needs talent when you’re one of the fellas?! That spirit alone will outweigh any of that!
     
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  18. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Both Romero and Dibu injured......hopefully nothing serious happened..
     
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  19. Riquelme100

    Riquelme100 Member

    Villarreal
    Argentina
    Jun 30, 2018
    Wouldnt be suprised if this WC will be remmebered for the list of players who could've played but couldnt because of injury. The amount of matches these footballers play now is insane.
     
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  20. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Add round 32 at WC to make it even worst.
     
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  21. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He walked off on his own, so I do not think it was an ACL. It's an MCL, so that means, MCL recoveries: Grade 1 (mild) = 1-3 weeks; Grade 2 = 4-6 weeks. If he tore it, a Grade 3, he will need surgery.
     
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  22. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chelsea deservedly getting smashed for stupidly suspending enzo
     
  23. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He'll be fine, it's probably just a knock and bruise
    You don't walk up on your own like that with both feet

    3 weeks probably

    knock on wood


    Dibu's isn't that serious either, it was just precaution

    lo celso back as well

    that man who pushed cuti, didn't get a red card, european refs are a joke.
     
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  24. Montoro10

    Montoro10 Member

    Barca
    Argentina
    Aug 18, 2025
    What a disgrace the player didnt even get carded for it.
     
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  25. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Chelsea lost to Man City 3-0.

    I thought Enzo was the problem?
     
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