Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They want him back but he should be smart enough ask to ask for another loan at Como.
     
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  2. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Xabi Alonso personally asked him back.. I think he'd flourish under Alonso as opposed to someone like Carlo.
     
  3. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I wouldnt be surprise if they go for Nico since Modric is about to jumped into Masche's sinking ship and making it sink even faster.
     
  4. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Paz won best young player award for the Serie A.

    Lomónaco apparently turned down an offer to play in Qatar. West Ham is supposedly interested for about 17 million.
     
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  5. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another free kick goal for Messi

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  6. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #26706 Rattlehead, May 24, 2025
    Last edited: May 24, 2025
    He's now ranked 3rd in player with most FK.
     
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  7. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dibu gets a red card in his last game for Villa... :confused:
     
  8. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Garna has been told he can leave United and was not even included in the team’s last game of the season.

    Apparently, there are a few teams interested. Chelsea, Napoli, and Atletico. Honestly, leaving England won’t be the worst of things. He can always return but going to Italy or Spain will be a good move. He needs to continue to develop. He’ll cost between 35-40 ME. I guess in today’s market isn’t all that bad.
     
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  9. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That kid’s ego is ass. He needs to humble himself. He thinks he’s the reincarnation of CR7
     
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  10. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chelsea and Enzo back in the Champions League. Good turn around for them.
     
  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #26711 Rattlehead, May 25, 2025
    Last edited: May 25, 2025
    True about his ego, but CR was actually fairly limited before he found his finishing touch. Surprisingly his stats compare to his idol is actually close. Garnacho biggest feat was scoring in FA cup final against Man city, CR biggest feat at same age was scoring in FA cup final against Millwall (first division team).

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    Garnacho actually has added few more goals & an assist since this stats.
     
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  12. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #26712 SupaMario, May 25, 2025
    Last edited: May 25, 2025
    Another assist for Mati.

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    I just saw Dibu's tackle... Wtf was he thinking? Eat the goal.
     
  13. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Dibu making sure Villa didn't qualify for the champions league before he leaves them :D
     
  14. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The best thing for Garnacho is to move away from Man Utd, it's a basket case of a football club.
     
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  15. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I hope and think he will stay for another year.

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  16. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He really can't stay at RM. Paz's best position is where Bellingham plays and there's no way that Alonso will drop or play Bellingham in another position.
     
  17. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It seems like his father has done a really good job at helping him navigate his career. I’m sure he’ll want to hear something that would incentivize him to return. It simply can’t be “He’ll start in CdR matches, get 15-20 minutes every now and then and we’ll see about the CL.” I think Nico knows how important it is for him to play. It paid off when he went to Como. If he does return and does not get regular minutes, he should ask for a loan deal back in Italy.

    Rumors are circulating they, Real, want him back and Xabi sees him as a piece to his project. It could just be smoke but who knows. We will know more by the end of the week.
     
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  18. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Xabi plays a 3-4-3/3-5-1

    I think Paz fits perfectly where Xabi needs him. A lot of doom and gloom over Paz going back to RM for no reason seeing as Xabi has done really well with young players w similar profiles.
     
  19. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Do please let me know how you would play the RM starting lineup with Paz.

    Even with the 3-4-3/3-5-1, I don't see how Paz starts alongside the likes of Mbappe, Vinicius and Bellingham.

    Please don't tell me Bellingham will play as a center midfield because you won't get the best out of him and weakens the starting XI overall.
     
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  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Gasperini is linked with Roma. This is great news for our players, particularly Soulé. There were initial rumors that Allegri was in consideration, which would’ve been awful. But Gasperini is more of a modern and progressive manager in Italian football. If this manifests, then great!
     
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  21. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    He's interchangeable.. Xabi plays double 10s whether in attacking phases or not...

    Vini and Mturtle would be the two uptop, while Bellingham could play the 10 and push Nico into the position he plays now at Como alongside Fede or he could change vice versa with Jude...

    It really sounds like it's pure Madrid hate, which is fair but I don't see how Paz DOESN'T play under Xabi. Guler is injury prone, Diaz is a bench player and Rodrygo is on his way out the door.
     
  22. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think Paz needs another year to get ready. Maybe in the summer of 26 he could make the move. He likely wants to go to the World Cup and if he goes somewhere and does not become a regular starter, he may lose his spot. Scaloni likes him and rightful so but he’s made it clear that his players need to play.

    Some are saying Paz might be pushed more forward and Jude will slide back a bit. Paz is great at breaking up attacks with passes from the midfield and he isn’t afraid to run at defenses. I think for his age, he’s extremely poised and mature. When I first saw him play a few years back, it was obvious he stood out. He was the best player on the pitch by a wide margin.


    But to make such a big jump within a world cup year is not the best bet. He is a Madrid academy player and not only that, he won’t cost them too much money to sit on the bench if he has a couple bad games.

    He should definitely ask for another year under Fabregas.
     
  23. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Sure, but Xabi Alonso also really fancies Nico and iirc wanted him on loan at Leverkusen this past season.

    I think if and when he goes, it's to play and I'd assume his development under Alonso would make him undeniable. We'll see tho. I think Cesc might be out the door to another club soon.
     
  24. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It's not Real Madrid hate, it's being realistic and getting the maximum minute that you can get.

    You mentioned that Vinicius and Mbappe can play a front 2. If Xabi will play a back 3, then the only formation that could work is a 3-4-1-2. Then in this case it'll be something like

    --------------Vini------Mbappe
    -----------------Bellingham
    Camavinga-Tchou--Valderde--Trent
    -------Huijsen-----Ascencio----Militao

    No way, will Bellingham play in one of the position of Tchou or Valverde. They tried that in the 24/25 season playing Vini, Mbappe and Rodrygo together and it never worked so they dropped Rodrygo.

    Paz in centre midfield won't work. That's not his profile and with the attacking players not helping defensively, Paz will get exposed.

    Then the alternative option would be Paz being the sub for Bellingham. Paz can get what I like to call the "Arda Guler" minutes, which is like 20 full games, most of which are garbage minute. Also, there's the likes of Guler, Endrick, Diaz who can all play in that position so the minutes will be cut off more.

    Xabi could like Paz, but this is Real Madrid where there's a constant expectation to win every game to which there will be more pressure to play the tried and tested.

    Much much better where Paz is guaranteed to get minutes as a guaranteed starter.
     
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  25. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If Paz goes back to Real Madrid he's going to spend the season as a sub. That's just the reality, he might start a few games in the Copa Del Rey but that will.be about it.
     

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