Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yep, my only gripe would be our team sometimes would sleepwalking / just going through the motion after 2-0 up. It happened againts Netherlands, France & Australia in 2022. Recently againts Brazil, we had similar defensive lapses after 2-0 up. You just cant allows that to happen againts too often againts strong side, especially a team that has someone like Yamal or Mbappe. At one point you're going to pay for it.

    So while I think our midfield is more than strong enough to battle Spain midfield, 1 or 2 errors at the back like Pezzella, Ota, Montiel & Cuti did against Netherlands, France & Brazil, it can be costly.
     
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  2. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It looks like Facundo Medina will be leave Lens FC finally. Atletico does need a LCB/LB and he would fit in well.

    Tagliafico on a free agent this summer. Dibu leaving. Almada wanting to stay in Europe. RDP and Molina rumoured to be leaving ATM.

    Important transfer window for the national team for several players.

     
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  3. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Let’s just schedule the game after the World Cup. This would be a good game for a farewell for many of our senior players.
     
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  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Also, Barca seems to be heavily interested on Julian as they want to replace an aging Lewa.
     
  5. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I thought about this too, but UEFA nations league 26/27 is starting in Sept. 2026. and ends in June 2027.

    UEFA is absolutely a joke
     
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  6. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nations League is such a ********ing drag. They need to limit most of the playing schedule to the lesser nations where it actually might be of use to them. The top league sides should just play a couple elimination games at most or something instead of making it such a full schedule.
     
  7. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Julian, you madman!
     
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  8. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    2 goals and an assist for Julian. The assist was to Correa who likely played his last game in front of the Atletico fans.

    Soulé with another assist early for Roma. This was from a CK. He does a good job with his dead ball plays.
     
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  9. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What a free kick goal for Paredes! Roma really needed that.
     
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  10. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
     
  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Julian , Enzo & Paredes should take the FK when Messi isnt playing.

    Molina showed his counter attack speed but his goal unfortunately was slightly offside.
     
  12. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Useless tournament from the start, except for statspedding.
     
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  13. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    All three are right-footed. We would also need a left-footed option.

    Giuliano almost scored a goal that would’ve made a prime Messi proud. He unfortunately hit the post. Hell of a run.
     
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  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    True, but I think a great FK taker would be able to score from each side. We've seen Messi, Roman, Batigol, Dybala scoring freekicks from both left and right side of the goal. That Julian freekick supposed to be easier for left footed taker but he curled that one perfectly.

    I remember Roman scoring 2 freekicks in qualifier with Messi standing next to him, he planted both of them from very different position.

    Yea, Giu's ability is taking a huge leap within a season. You could tell he's simply more talented than his brother.
     
  15. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Rumors are circulating that Kein Lomónaco will be called-up by Scaloni. He and a few other local players will get the nod. Let's see. Sure as hell will be better than Pezzella(Than again the statue at the park will be a better job).
     
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  16. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Did you see Pezzella vs Independiente del Valle?

    Check out his marking in IDV’s second goal (2:23 mark)



    He actually started off pretty solid the first few months he returned to River, but ever since Hulk owned him in the Libertadores semifinals back in October his confidence has been in the dump and it’s been a lot of the above
     
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  17. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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    Holy crap, talk about a blast from a past…. Michael freakin Hoyos, the kid who grew up in SoCal and repped us for the Sub 20s.
    Not to mention, Spinelli, who I vaguely remembered repping Tigre before being sold-off in Europe or something.

    I am already bracing for Scaloni to call up Pezzella. Dude was awful in Qatar and he’s been a whipping boy recently. If Scaloni wants to take him to the US, give him a Kun like role. Be a cheerleader and pretend to be a part of the squad. Give him some consulting role, anything but not a player. That is non-negotiable.

    Taking Licha who will be recovering from an ACL, Otamendi who is older than the hills and Romero who has checked out of England are all concerning signs. We all can see it, we saw it during the CA; when our defense got pushed, we had to hold onto for dear life.

    Anyways, we are all waiting for changes and Scaloni simply has not pulled the trigger. He may do so on the fly but as a long term plan, he is hesitant. I hope somebody in his staff just lets him know… Or just comeback and read BS Argentina. We all helped him last time around. We’re here for you, Lionel. :D
     
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  18. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #26668 Rattlehead, May 20, 2025
    Last edited: May 20, 2025
    The problem is, he might just look at the stats and we literally conceided just once in the whole tournament. The fact that we ended up lifting the trophy (something we couldnt do even once with players like Ayala, Samuel, Zanetti, Aimar, etc), I'm afraid Scaloni will see things differently than us.

    The truth is, Dibu bailed us many times , the tourney literally could have ended against Ecuador. Lautaro being in top form also helped. But imagine having to face another shootout in next WC, we might escape 1 shootout, but to survive 2 shootouts again?

    One thing that seems to cover our weakneeses would be the strong mentallity and grittiness. Our penalty takers looked confident because of Dibu .

    I dont see Pezzella can be that joker like Lavezzi and Kun. If anything he'd simply be another Armani.
     
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  19. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Scaloni has the opportunity to experiment by picking some new, younger players who can play in competetive games, but ones that don't matter in terms of results. In my humble opnion the squad needs fresh faces, just in terms of other teams, in my view France are stronger than they were in 2022, they now have Barcola, Doue, Olise, Spain, well, we know what Spain have. No team has defended the world cup since Brazil when they won it in '58 and '62, so to give ourselves any chance we need to freshen things up. And that means dropping Pezzella. :D
     
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  20. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Very early prediction but I would think this is more or less the 26 player World Cup squad that Scaloni will go with

    GK: E. Martinez (33), Rulli (34), Benitez (33)
    RB: Molina (28), Montiel (29), Foyth (28)
    CB: Romero (28), Otamendi (38), Balerdi (27), L. Martinez (28)
    LB: Tagli (33), Medina (27)

    RM: De Paul (32), Palacios (27)
    DM: Enzo (25), Paredes (32)
    CM: MacAllister (27), Lo Celso (30)

    RW: Messi (39), Paz (21), Giuliano (23)
    FW: Martinez (28), Castellanos (27)
    LW: Alvarez (26), Almada (25), Nico Gonzales (28)

    Alvarez (26)---------------Martinez (28)—--------------Messi (39)
    —----—-------MacA (27)--------------------RDP (32)
    —--—--------------------------Enzo (25)
    Tagliafico (33)----Otamendi (38)----Romero (28)—--Molina (28)
    —-------------------------------Dibu (33)
     
  21. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
     
  22. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Pleased for Romero, although the game itself was like watching 2 bald men fighting over a comb. Harry McGuire is a twunt
     
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  23. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Cuti won Player of the Match. Strange, I think they ran out of medals for the himself and Son. But anyways, I think we need a healthy Cuti going into 26. He is one of the most irreplaceable players that we have. His intensity, timing and will to win is second to none. I know he is a hot-head and plays on that line but man, we are lucky to have him.
     
  24. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He's a big game player isn't he, in the day to day games he can be erratic, but come the big games he's always on it.
     
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  25. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    He's the type of player that needs motivation/hype to perform to his best. A bit like De Paul in that sense.
     
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