Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Julian will be tasked to stay wide and MacAllister would take the left halfspace. They can switch position by moving into each other's position.

    When attacking
    --------------------Martinez
    Julian-------MacA--------Messi----------Molina
    ---------------Enzo---------RDP
    ----------Lisandro---Balerdi-----Romero

    I want to think of it as similar to the left side of the Barca 2011 team with David Villa stayed wide while Abidal tucked in.

    I'm guessing that Tagliafico will play at LB though.
     
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  2. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  3. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  4. johnbarley2

    johnbarley2 Member+

    Jan 19, 2013
    Ha, I thought he had retired. I guess just from the NT.
     
  5. johnbarley2

    johnbarley2 Member+

    Jan 19, 2013
    Interesting comparison. Haven't seen much of Nico Paz but he seems to be better in tight spaces than Kaka. How similar is Paz to Pastore?
     
  6. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  7. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The Pastore at Globo and Palermo was a really special player. I think most of us were hyped about him.

    I think Paz is a bit more dynamic(In terms of dynamism, I mean speed and won't really be bullied off the ball) whereas Flaco was a bit more elegant in his game. Where I think Paz might be better is his passing game. He could make the long pass where it can help launch a counterattack out and he can see the right pass.

    I have mentioned this many times but Pastore was one of our great letdowns. I have always said, I do not think his heart was in the game. He went for the big dollars at PSG and that was that. He could've gone to Juventus but PSG offered Palermo a bit more money and that was that. Every now and then he showed his flashes of magic but nothing that he could sustain for an entire season.

    Let's just hope Paz has a better career. And here is actually an article that discusses his game. It kinda talks what I have already mentioned. But still worth a read.

    https://breakingthelines.com/player...rid-to-como-a-midfield-maestro-in-the-making/

    With him coming into his own and Mastantuono who appears to be growing as well, we will be in good hands.
     
  8. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Pastore never quite lived up to his potential, still had a great career but never became the superstar that he seemed destined to become. Comparing Paz to Kaka at this stage is a bit silly really, Kaka was a great player in his prime, Paz has potential but has a long way to go before he can be placed in the same category as Kaka. To be honest, if he turns into the next Fabregas that is fine with me.
     
  9. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    At least Pastore is part of the WC winning team:)

    [​IMG]
     
  10. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  11. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The comparison is based on his style of play.

    Licha is not injured as well. I do not understand Scaloni's logic here. As you mentioned, I wonder if there is some internal issues that we are not privy about.
     
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  12. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This will probably be the XI that Scaloni will line up, but hoping to see these subs.

    —-----------Martinez—-Messi
    Alvarez—---MacA—--Enzo—----RDP
    Tagliafico---Otamendi---Romero—Molina
    -------------------Dibu

    Sub in Castellanos, Garnacho, Paredes, Medina, Balerdi
     
  13. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I dont like that Scaloni keeps saying publicly how he almost quit the NT. Its almost like subtle way to say "I cant wait to manage a big club". Lets say we suddenly hit a slump period and he could use that
    "lack of energy" as an arguement.
     
  14. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don’t know… I may be wrong, but Scaloni doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who would care much about managing a big club.

    If anything I think him leaving the door open to an exit had more to do with not wanting to stain his legacy (or rather leaving on a fairytale ending), as well as differences with AFA/Tapia’s board management.

    Maybe one day he’ll coach a big team, but I highly doubt he’s waiting for a Real Madrid to call him. I actually think he’ll probably take a break once he leaves his Argentina role, manage a mid-level/second tier European team or two, and then coach a team in Argentina’s Primera Division in the long run.
     
  15. Fangio

    Fangio Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    May 15, 2024
    It's there a chance for a late call for Senesi? I'll really love that.
     
  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, hopefully thats the case. Tapia always struck me as Grondona 2.0 anyway.
     
  17. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No
    I see your comments on mundo albiceleste sometimes. You call yourself "The rattler 2.0 quick draw hustla"
     
  18. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I've been using the same username forever.
     
  19. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Looks like he is. Back injury. So he won't be coming. This time I think it's genuine unlike Paulo and his phantom injuries. Please call up Senesi. It's really bizarre he's not there. Or maybe just bring in Anselmino with dispensation for Boca.
     
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  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It was a typo. * Licha goes out and fights for us. I wouldn’t question his willingness to play for us.
     
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  21. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Just for this, Medina should be considered highly in being selected

     
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  22. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I was about to come and post this. I think Scaloni loves players who are always willing to give their all for the team. Players who are willing to go above and beyond. Medina will surely be on the cusps of making it to the team from now on.

    I think this is why Dybala will continue to get rebuffed. He does not seem like that player that is willing to sacrifice himself for the team. I know he made a big fuss that he fought very hard to make the World Cup side, spending 12 hours+ a day trying to recover. But that's the World Cup, of course he would. But these games where all the players have to travel and he continues to get "injuries" before qualifiers is what rubs everybody the wrong way. After a while, you just tell yourself, "I'm over it. And I will not deal with it anymore."
     
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  23. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Don’t give Tapia ideas.. he’s gonna start making every player pay for their own tickets
     
  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'd like to give him an idea, stop booking tickets for Otamendi & Pezzella.
     
  25. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I kinda forgot that we had a qualifier tomorrow. I’ve mentioned this before but way back in the day, I seriously could not wait for the seleccion to play. It was like some treat. Not like those alfajores, which nearly cost us the Mundial in 22.

    I think what I kinda miss is playing friendlies v some European rivals. Since the Nations League has come into play we hardly ever square up with the European teams. Now, when we do play them, the games are high risk.

    But anyways, we should after two Ws. Six points and just qualify. Playing in Asunción is always a bit tricky for us and you know Paraguay want a result since they are on teetering on qualifying.


    Maybe Scaloni can finally begin experimenting v Peru because our next two qualifiers after this is v Uruguay and Brasil.
     

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