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It was a bad performance from him. For now, just a sub for the national team.

 

Lautaro scored winning goal. Him & Julian finally took off this season.

 

Not defending his recent performance but player of his age tend to be inconsistent , even Messi didnt really find his proper finishing ability until 21. Before that age, he mostly rely on his crazy dribbles and acceleration. Maybe we're spoiled and used to see Argentine teenage prodigy since early 2000s that we expect everyone to be like ADM, Aguero, Tevez, Lavezzi, Saviola and Messi. As SM noted, some players didnt even peak until mid 20s like RDP, Paredes and Lo Celso.

Garnacho does seems like a player that would be more useful as second half sub for the national team , given his playing style. He already bettered his last season though stats, almost 10 goals contribution already.

 

Seasons after summer tournaments are really weird ones, especially for teams who go deep.

I think Lautaro and Julian were just tired. And now we’ve added the World Club Cup to the list of games.

Not people here, but layman people who don’t know the game don’t understand how much the body breaks down after playing so many games season after season.

 

Yep, and as young as Garnacho is... he has played 66 games in less than 18 months (no kidding!). Having meaningless cup like EFL didnt help. Messi did the right thing by going to PSG as they never had a deep run in CL at the time. He only played 34 games the season leading up to the WC while he played at least 45-60 games per season during his time at Barca.

 

The Club World Cup is what worries me the most because a lot of our players will be playing in that tournament.
- Enzo (Chelsea)
- Lautaro (Inter)
- Varela?! (Porto)
- Otamendi?! (Benfica)
- Nico G. (Juventus)
- Alvarez (Atletico Madrid)
- RDP (Atletico Madrid)
- Molina (Atletico Madrid)
- G. Simeone?! (Atletico Madrid)
- Correa?! (Atletico Madrid)
- Musso (Atletico Madrid)
- Messi (Inter Miami) - in the case of Messi, I think he will be fine as the MLS season starts in Feb.

In the case of Spain, most of their key players are from FC Barcelona and they are not playing in the Club World Cup and they will probably be the most freshest for both la Finalissima and World Cup.

Time for rest is rare and we have 3 international windows in 2025 in Sept. Oct. and Nov. If I were Scaloni, I would rest the players except for Messi who participated in the Club World Cup for all those 3 international windows. 95% of those players have played in the team for a long time so I'm sure they will be fine + we can try other new players as well.

 

Double rep. To be honest, Messi not playing those extra games helped a ton! Otherwise, it was just burnout after burnout towards the end of the season.

Agree with soul’s post too. Spain will be really fresh for 2026, and those 3 games per international window will be extremely hard.

 

There have already been rumblings that many players will not participate in this sham. I forgot which FIFA official it was but he said “If the players are upset about this, then don’t play.” I think they’ll just rest.

I mean, seriously; these Fatcats always ruin football. This initial began as the Copa Intercontinental, where at first you had a home-away with the South American champions v the European, then it became a 1 game final, which was great between the two sides. Then alllllllll of a sudden, they invite every single team from every continent to play on this tournament. It’s a joke.

I hope they scrap this entire idea in the future and we get either a home-away from the European and South American champions or a 1 game final.

 

I'm glad Roma, Aston Villa, Spurs, Como, Liverpool and MU aint there. Those who will play the club world cup, hopefully they'll get eliminited early. When your career ended, people will look at how many major International trophies, CL and league titles you have, hardly anybody will ever mention domestic cup let alone super cup and club world cup .

 

It's the clubs that pay those guys £200k, £300k a week wages, the idea that playing gor their clubs is irrelevant is laughable.

 

If you get paid $6000 per month working in office, I'd love to see you having an overtime 3 times a week while still getting $6000.

Also the idea of having an extra useless tournaments came from fifa council and they're not the ones who pay these players. Basically the same man in suits who keeps altering football and its tournament basic rules aswell.

EFL and Carabao cup are basically same meaningless tournament like Copa de la liga back then.

 

You seem to think players should get paid £300k a week by their clubs but not play any games for them and just sit around waiting for international games, I assume you've never supported a club side in your life.

 

Players shouldn’t be playing 10-11 months out of the year, no matter how much they get paid or how well they’re pampered. Those clubs make a fortune because of the players. You want players to have longevity? Then allow them to have their rightful time off.

 

The quality of the game decreases if players don't get adequate rest both physically and mentally. Very often at times, we see players come in to summer international tournaments very tired and lethargic.

Also, a reason why I want Scaloni to trust his bench players more as I could see summer international tournaments being more of a squad game with the amount of games increasing and to have the players more fresh.

 

Yes, but this is why we need to get the young players into the team. We need options especailly in this new wave that UEFA and FIFA is forcing down on the players.

With Success comes other issues.

 

Nobody in this thread says players should only care about NT. Most simply says players shouldnt be playing way too many games than their body could handle.

By your logic, just because players gets paid big sum of $$$ that means the club can do whatever they wants with them, even if the rules suddenly change to 70 games per season.

 

I think Scaloni wants his team to mathemically qualify before giving more minutes to the younger players. Its worrying though that he's still capable of starting with Ota and Pezzella at the same time.

We've seen in every WC there always new young talents that capable to beating defenders with their pace or skills. Mbappe did that in 2018, Alvarez did it in 2022 (even Enzo was revelation in that tournament), Germany in 2010 rely on pacy counter (notable against Australia, England and Argentina).

Right now the only reliable defenders we have would be Licha and Cuti. Tagli is still good enough for now but he'd be almost 34 by then. Otamendi, Pezzella and Acuna , I just dont see us winning the next tourney by taking all those three players. Senesi right now should easily replaced the ball-watcher Pezzella.

 

Regarding Garnacho, time will tell, he is still very young, but he does seem very overrated imho, he seems to believe his own publicity that he's the new Ronaldo. More time improving as a footballer and less time on his goal celebrations.

 

🗣 Javier Pastore on if he ever saw Lionel Messi suffer with Argentina: "Very much so. We spent days in the locker room, not only him, none of us was happy in the national team.

"I was with him when he said he was not going to play in the national team anymore, he really said it… pic.twitter.com/aQUiC6DQ3V

— Roy Nemer (@RoyNemer) November 5, 2024

 

GK: Dibu, Benitez, Rulli
RB: Molina, Montiel
CB: Romero, Pezzella, Balerdi, Otamendi, Perez
LB: L. Martinez, Tagli

RM: De Paul, Palacios
DM: Enzo, Paredes, Barrenechea
CM: MacAllister, Lo Celso

RW: Messi, Nico Paz, Buonanotte
FW: Alvarez, Martinez, Castellanos
LW: Garnacho, Nico Gonzalez, Thiago Almada

- The absolute joke is Pezzella ahead of Senesi again. I have no words. I haven't watched Perez too much since his loan to Porto so can't comment on him
- Tagliafico being the only LB probably means that Lisandro will be the other LB
- Montiel ahead of Maffeo is baffling
- Like seeing Barrenechea in the team. Probably will replace Paredes in the future.
- No Dybala, guess the injuries and such made him lose his spot for now.
- Glad to see Castellanos, Nico Paz and Buonanotte in the squad.

 

Scaloni is entering his "Gallardo with Nacho" phase.

 

He calls up Barrenechea, which is fine and dandy but no Varela? How long has Varela been in Portugal? If he is eligible to get a passport, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to cap him. There has to be something there for why Varela is not being called up.

And calls up Perez who I had no idea was at Porto but not Senesi?

Personally, I am glad that Dybala was not called up. I am tired of his phantom injuries before qualifiers.


But anyways, Scaloni is a ********en weirdo.

 

At this point, the likes of Senesi and Varela needs to prioritize in moving to a bigger club this upcoming summer, that's probably the only way that they will get selected.

For Dybala, apparently it's because of a tactical decision, which doesn't make sense to me.

(🌕) Paulo Dybala is not on the list due to a tactical decision. @gastonedul 🇦🇷 pic.twitter.com/CgnfQytq5p

— All About Argentina 🛎🇦🇷 (@AlbicelesteTalk) November 5, 2024

 

..yea, Sabella trusted Sergio Romero and somehow it worked. Sometimes manager sticks with their choices which contrary with popular opinions.

At this point, Dybala will most likely be used as last resort by Scaloni when his key players get injured.