Argentina vs. Korea Republic Post Match Thread (R)

I think seeing that Argentina barely scored one past Enyeama, the South Koreans believed they could get point out of Argentina.

And they went for the courageous approach: play them as equals.

And paid the price, like Australia did. But great heart won't be denied.

 

Ive said this in our own forum and the way we played Argentina had a lot to do with why the dominated us so badly. Im talking about allowing them to possess the rock in the midfield, falling back and trying to defend and looking for the counter.

But really full credit should be given to the Argies for their technical superiorty. Despite tactics, the ball seemed glued to their feet and the passing was incredibly accurate. To top it off some of the passes were made almost with out looking....these guys had some weird innate ability to know where their teammates were.

Considering the above, Id say there were 1 or 2 teams in the world who couldve handled Argentina we saw a couple of days ago. S. Korea wasnt one of them and N. Korea definitely wouldnt have faired much better.

 

This is something that CANNOT BE DENIED of the Koreans. They have heart and it shows in every match.

 

sadly, i feel like this is getting to be less and less with the s. korean national team. i'm seeing more diving, more showboating and less honest to goodness "we're going to simply outlast and outrun you" that characterized this team in 2002. i'm hoping that the team goes back to the core of what korean football (yes, i include the north) should be.

 

Speak for yourself please. We got crushed because they were a lot better than us.


End of story. Casting blame on 3 dudes is just a weak way out. The whole team failed.

Most importantly our manager failed.

 

Teams win and lose all the time. Putting all your hopes on beating Argentina in this world cup is misguided. Korea has a SOLID chance at passing to the 2nd round, which IMO, is vastly greater than whether or not you beat Argentina.

Concentrate on Nigeria which will hold the key to the 2nd round.

 

That's what they wanted to do (reflected by big talk from the coach and captain Park JS), but they actually started the game very cautiously. They actually started attacking in the second half, which only led to their ruin. Lee stated after the match that they should have attacked from the beginning.

Basically, Korean coach did not follow Hiddink's recommendation which was to attack Argentina from the beginning. Hiddink said this would have put Messi and Higuein playing defense which they do not like to do.

My personal feeling is that Korean coach and captain Park should not have talked arrogantly about beating Argentina. They should have said Korea will be careful and then they should have taken the game to Argentina as Hiddink said. Oh well, I'm not the coach so they did what they wanted. Actually, I think they froze in fear as the game started and never did what they wanted the entire game and took a beating.

AND Argentina did NOT barely score one against Enyeama.

 

I just watched the game for the second time. My verdict is that the coach's decision to replace Cha with Oh was a significant reason for this lopsided defeat. I know that Oh is actually a good player. But he had a bad game. His foul directly led to Arg's first goal. His second foul again led to Arg's second goal. Just before his second foul, he actually lost a ball by mistake. Either way, him losing the ball or fouling led to the second goal.

Would Cha made any difference? We don't know. But he had one game under his belt, as well as other previous WC games. Oh was most likely nervous playing in his first WC and against Argentina and it definitely showed in the game. Of course, the loss is not entirely due to one man's fault, but I say it was significant.

Park's own goal was unfortunate and nothing could have been done. It is tough to be down against Argentina, but I don't think that was the biggest reason for this loss.

Korean players made many mistakes in the game but coach will have to take the responsibility for this loss than the players.

 

Considering the possibility of a less manned defense getting stretched (while attacking), attacking in first half before knowing they are 1 goal down wouldn't of been wise, game could of opened up much earlier.
Losing 1 on 1 in defense, particularly the korean right wing is one thing, not progressing beyond midfield is another. How many attacks initialized by Korea from its back field really progressed? Cannot capitalize if opportunities are not given.

 

The only period in the match where we were effective at all was when someone took it upon themself to dribble into open space. Lack of composure on the ball and defensive pressure led to poor passing and turnovers. Argentina never allowed us to get into any sort of rhythm except for a small part of the match.

 

Well said. Demoralizing defeat due to the manner not because it was unexpected, not that we didn't think we could take it.

 

a lot of people are big on Argentina, but I don't see them as strongly as others do.

to me its the same team, almost exactly, that played the south american eliminatorias. Great players going forward but a slow central midfield and very slow defense.

They attack well because of the talent of their players, but outside of individual partnerships their goal scoring chances don't tend to emerge from team play. against a solid defensive team, this will be lethal.

Messi is playing better than he has in the past, but still not shining as much as he needs to in order to make a long run.

To me its still the team that can get it done against Uruguay, and has the raw talent to squeeze out results against Peru...but its also the team that when pressed commited many defensive errors, and that often lacked creativity going forward.


to me the improvement from WCQ to the WC has not been sufficient to convince me that they are better than the 4th place conmebol team. and not good enough to win, not yet anyways

 

Who said that argentina are favorites?Have i missed something?Last time i remember the teams considered favorites were spain,brazil and england in that exact order.

 

Yeah, you've missing the World Cup.

Argentina is clearly in that top echelon now. Spain and England? Pfffft.

 

England is barely playing top 30 football right now.


Crappiest "team" Ive seen play in the tournament.

 

it doesnt really matter if Messi score or not as long he has contribution
He made 2 assist and involved on other 2. Maradona scored only 1 goal in 86 group stage and scored 0 in 90 but his contribution on midfield was always undeniable. Messi mere presence on the field is already an adventage. Here's Messi shortly before chipping the ball to Aguero , nobody seems to care on marking Higuain

 

You probably didn't catch my irony,but it's ok.

 

I'd say the powerhouses are Netherland, Spain, Brazil and Argentina.

 

Spain played a great match today, they're back.

 

You are kidding right? Did you see how easily Honduras moved their lines up the field? If it wasn't for Honduras having such a horrible defense Spain would never have won. Chile will be hard to beat for Spain. Watch out for that game.

 

Didn't catch the match myself but despite the goals I heard folks say Spain looked disinterested.

 

Spain dominated possession and casually crafted the needed goals. They weren't even trying.

But that's Spain's problem. They're missing that goal scoring edge that winning teams need in spite of the vast talent in their squad. It'll be lights out if they find it.

 

It's late but Korea was rather unlucky with that first own goal and with Huh's loser tactics, this game was doomed from the beginning in an already steep uphill battle against a far better team.

But even with deflated morale, Lee Chungyong exposed Argie's problematic defense and Korea had a real chance to equalize in the second half.

Anyone claiming Lee Chungyong's goal was a fluke is clueless. It's not fluke when Korea scores the same type of goal 2 games in a row at the World Cup.

While the ARgie fanboys are oblivious and happy at the final score, discerning Arg footy fans would have noticed that Korea came uncomfortably close to exposing their defensive woes at the start of the second half.

Korea had a real chance in second half and were enjoying the run of play leading up to Yeom's retarded left footed miss with 1 v 1. That miss was ridiculous but it could easily have been 2-2 which would have changed the game dramatically. Argentina came uncomfortably close to letting Korea back in the game even after a dominating first half performance.

Fortunately for Argentina, Yeom missed and Argentina wasn't challenged beyond early first half but if the our Korean National team scrub Yeom can find himself 1v1 with ARgie keeper, that is a problem for Argentina's defense.

If Huh let Korea play their style and play for a win instead of trying to copy North Korea, this game would have been very different. Hopefully, we'll advance and this game would have been a lesson learned.

 

but you are forgetting the fact that Argentina had at least 3 other really good chances that they just bottled.

Also Korea (or anyother teams for that matter) always finds ways to get close to goal. NK had one good chance and one clear chance against Portugal for goodness sake.

The fact is, korea simply wasnt good enough. if you think korea would have won with a different tactic, you are just failing to see the reality.

 

Please show me where I said Korea would have won with different tactic or that Korea was good enough.