Argentina vs. Honduras.. US news related (R)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by EL MONO MARIO, Feb 1, 2003.

  1. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina too much for Honduras.. US news related (R)

    With goals by Lucho Gonzalez (of River Plate), Diego Milito (Independente) and Mariano Gonzalez, Argentina out classed Honduras 3-1 despite starting the game 1-0 down...

    The game can be seen on Telemundo on Sunday...

    Bielsa was very happy with the team preformance... And looks for a better showing aganist Mexico and an even better one against the USA...
     
  2. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Thanks Mono - Don't forget to not give away the result as well as using an R in the title.
     
  3. SocrStopr13

    SocrStopr13 Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    What time is the game on telemundo?
     
  4. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Check out the Argies

    I usually find SoccerTV more reliable than Yahoo! TV, but Yahoo! TV has Argentina v Honduras listed at 1 pm EST on 2/1:

    http://tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=...%a3tbol+Telemundo&progutn=1044208800&.intl=us

    FWIW, the sports anchor on the local news on Telemundo's Houston affiliate announced that they'll have the Argentina v Mexico game.
     
  5. SgtSchultz

    SgtSchultz Member

    Jul 11, 2001
    Parts Unknown
    This should be a great match for the US. I just finished watching the Honduras-Argentina match. The US is going to be under alot of pressure, especially our back line. It will be a perfect opportunity for Bruce to analyze players.
     
  6. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Argentina too much for Honduras.. US news related (R)

    And a mention is in order for ex-MLSer Saul Martinez who scored for Honduras against Argentina. Martinez never got going in MLS with Metros and the Fusion. Didn't get much playing time. Yet he plays a lot like Carlos Ruiz does for the Gals. He is an opportunist. Perhaps if he was with a team near the top of MLS his skills would have been appreciated.
     
  7. MetroDug

    MetroDug Member

    May 4, 1999
    New York, NY USA
    Saul also scored vs Brazil in the Copa America in 2001 IIRC. He now plays in Shanghai.
     
  8. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately, if we play Victorine and Califf on the right side, I think our back line will wilt. And if Convey plays at left back, as much as I like the kid, given his experience and everything, that doesn't bode well either.

    Of course if we play Pope and Boca in the middle as a pairing, that would help things. It will also help if our midfield can help take some of the pressure off, move the ball around, and press the ball forward as often as not.

    We shall see!
     
  9. asdf

    asdf New Member

    Mar 1, 1999
    FYI, his Shanghai team plays a friendly vs. the SJ Earthquakes in San Francisco next Saturday, 2/8.
     
  10. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd rather play Victorine, Califf and Convey in the back to get a true sense of how good they are. I'd rather lose 4-0 and know that they will fold under pressure than play an more experienced group, tie 1-1 and not learn anything about the new guys. These are all learning experiences for the players and Bruce.

    Murf
     
  11. michael greene

    Oct 31, 2002
    Absolutely. Playing experienced defenders like Pope in matches like this makes no sense. Given his age and injury history, we need to replace him. A great player to call into camp, much like McBride, to show the younger defenders what it takes and to provide a tough scrimmage for the young forwards.

    I've never seen anything that says Califf can play at this level. Let him get exposed now before it hurts us.
     
  12. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Re: Re: Argentina too much for Honduras.. US news related (R)

    He never played for Metro.
     
  13. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    TV

    Will there be a TV broadcast of the US vs Arg. game?
     
  14. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: TV

    ESPN2 (I think, as opposed to ESPN), 12pm est.

    (if it's not on ESPN2, it's on ESPN, one or the other)
     
  15. Martin Cutler

    Martin Cutler New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    San Diego
    For those interested, on this thread we discussed the Argentina v Honduras match:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=31311

    And here is what I said about the game in that thread:

    " I wanted to get an idea of Argentina's new team before I see them play live on Tuesday against Mexico so I caught last night's Argentina v Honduras game. I actually was quite impressed with the dynamism displayed by this new national team of Bielsa's. First of all the field was poor and it affected both teams. Despite the field conditions, however, Argentina showed a great deal of skillful play. Secondly Honduras isn't anywhere near as strong as Argentina's next two opponents Mexico & US. Apart from a few mazy dribbles by Guevara and the speed of Saul Martinez, Honduras showed little. Thirdly, the ref was atrocious and even though the game was cleanly played by both teams, he sent off 3 players! The first was for a late Honduran challenge from behind 20 seconds into the second half which was nothing more than a yellow card. Then Gabriel Milito was sent off for what was on replays a legitimate shoulder to shoulder challenge. The ref, however, was miles away from the play and bought the dramatic fall by the attacker. The third red card to Garce of Argentina was for a trip on Guevara and then Garce presumably continued talking to the ref becausehe then pulled out the red. I'm sorry but this is friendly and it was played cleanly, however, the ref's poor judgment affected the match.

    Back to the game itself, Argentina moved the ball around very well and the two Gonzalez' Luis(Lucho) and Mariano on the right really worked well together and were the two best players on the field. They are both quick, dynamic and skillful and they created a ton of problems for Honduras' defense. These are two players to watch for in the future. D'Alessandro also ran the team very well and worked very hard all game long. Diego Milito also was very active up front. Guiñazu did pretty well too but was less effective offensively than he was defensively.

    Argentina's only real weakness was defensively, especially dealing with Honduras' speed. Burdisso looked uncomfortable in the middle of the 3 man defense. Before their expulsions, Garce and Milito looked more comfortable, particularly Garce. The other two players who disappointed were Ponzio, who gave balls away and fouled too much and Insua who never looked comfortable on the left wing. Battaglia was the only reserve who saw significant time and when he replaced Ponzio, Argentina's ball movement improve dramatically.

    Overall a good first game for Argentina's young team. They'll improve as they get to know each other better but their next two opponents will give them a far better test than Honduras did. Should be worthwhile to watch both of those matches.

    "
     
  16. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina will field the same team against Mexico with 1 change..

    Saja; Garcé, Burdisso, Gabriel Milito; Lucho González, Battaglia, Guiñazú; D'Alessandro; Mariano González, Diego Milito and Insúa.


    Look for Leandro Romangioli to play against the USA...
     
  17. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Milito and Garce won't play against Mexico because of the new FIFA rule than a red card in a friendly means that the player get a 1 match ban in the next friendly.
     

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