Argentina v. U.S. - pre-game (Mexico vs. Argentina R)

Yeah you're right, any given sunday "El taladro", "el sepulturero" or "los leprosos" would spank LA's @ss! just ask River Plate and their 5- nil loss to Banfield recently.

 

El mas grande sigue siendo River Plei

More respect to the Millos who have given us such great players like, Crespo, Ortega, Aimar, Saviola, Sorin < que ya juega en tu mierdero del Barca, and new players like D'Alesandro and Cavenaghi..

 

Sir Styles! nobody is denying RP's incredible talent (past and present) its just a way to show the potential of the argentinian league!

Y Sorín ya marcó con el Barcaaaaa!

 

Someone may have answered this already, but Pope is NOT healthy. He is recovering from knee surgery and was not able to go 100% in this camp from one report I read.

 

Re: What to look for on Sunday. (mex vs. Arg [R])

Just so no one misses the game... it's Saturday not Sunday (ESPN2, 11:55 a.m. ET) in Miami.

 

Re: Re: Argentina v. U.S. - pre-game (Mexico vs. Argentina R)

Oh man, now we're going to have to hose down all of Beverly Hills.

 

I know Argentine crowds can be intense, but you have to think the Coliseum was a pretty rattling environment for Argentina's young players the other night. They'll be more relaxed and composed in Miami, and maybe less likely to flub the last movement and finishing touch.

P.S. Flan, where YOU been? Did you get a life, start sleeping or discover burlesque or something? I hope it's burlesque.

 

Why everybody talks about this guy playing with his heart splitted? his dad said its better to end the match playing well AND tied!!!


http://www.futbolargentino.com/AutoNoticias/DetalleNoticia19487.asp

 

Just a bit of history here. And this was only MLS's 3rd season.

Interamerican Cup Trophy

D.C. UNITED - 1998 Interamerican Cup Champions
November 14, 1998: D.C. United 0 – 1 CR Vasco de Gama
December 5, 1998: D.C. United 2 – 0 CR Vasco de Gama
D.C. United wins 2 – 1 on aggregate

By winning the CONCACAF Champions Cup in August, D.C. United earned the right to play the South American champion, Brazilian side CR Vasco de Gama, in the Intercontinental Cup. When it was all said and done, United pulled off the “continental double” in what is considered the greatest triumph ever for American club soccer in international competition. United slipped at home, losing the home leg of the tourney 1-0 at RFK on November 14th. But three weeks later on the road leg, played at Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, United showed their championship savvy, as Tony Sanneh’s first half goal put United ahead 1-0. In the 77th minute, Eddie Pope notched what would prove to be the third Cup-winning goal of his career to put the Black-and-Red up 2-0 in the game and 2-1 on aggregate, giving D.C. United the Interamerican Cup Championship and the title of “Champion of the Americas.”

 

Given that this is mostly our full World Cup squad and that Argentina (which only got to the first round even with the likes of Veron) won't even have a single full-squad player (so I'm told), I'm expecting a solid and straightforward victory against this experimental team.

I'll be there to see the slaughter

 

Sure, full world cup squad, except for Friedel, McBride, O'Brien, Reyna, Hejduk, Sanneh, Lewis, Moore, Jones, Stewart... (The elipse spares me the embarrassment of suggesting Jeffery Own Goal was an asset in Japorea.)

Mostly means more than half. Beasely, Mathis, Donovan, and Mastroeni are the only WC veterans likely to see the field tomorrow.

 

No offense but just because you pressure an opponent, that makes you 'physically' intimidating? I'm thinking more along the lines of some Kraut fed Germans when I think of 'physically' intimidating. Capiche?

Yeah, blame it on one player. I forgot how many clear chances Batistuta blew. Argentina didn't even create that many clear chances, they created a lot of half chances and shots from distance that are more easily saved. I think Bielsa's mistake was not playing Aimar over the completely lost Veron.

"The best players there don't play long before Europe comes calling, and IMHO that hurts the league."

Sure, but those guys are automatically on Crespo's, Batistuta's, Veron's, Aimar's, Riquelme's level? C'mon, it takes time for them to develop also. I'm not saying that the league hurts for talent, I'm saying that losing players only allows the level of the league to reach a certain point before the best players are gone. It reaches that level again, and then the next crop of players goes to Europe.

The league hurts all the time financially despite selling it's best players. How, I have no idea. I guess they have the typical Latin finance managers.

 

This is why MLS left Florida.

 

Argentinas performence in WC02' was a JOKE!!! So what's your point?

 

More like Warren Sapp's hot nasty breath in your face AFTER he falls on you!!!

 

FYI

If you're interested, Radio Unica will begin its pre-game at 11:30 am ET. You can listen online at their site if you don't have a local station.

 

Div I in Argentina is unquestionably one of the top six or seven leagues in the world. While it is dominated by Boca, River and to a lesser extent by Independiente there is a parity on any given match that allows the likes of Banfield or New Chicago to beat the big boys. While the finances of all the clubs are a mess the pipeline of fantastic players simply never stops flowing. Many people in Argentina subscribe to the idea that there are really three national teams; the overpaid, slightly past it euro-based guys that go to the big tounaments; the hungrier first division "all stars (today's opponent's for the US)" and the best team, the sub-20's who are always amazing and have the hearts of most fans. Folks will tell you that the quality goes in reverse order in actual fact.

Now I don't say that this is so, I really have no way of knowing but I will say that it would be an absolutely mighty achievement for the MLS/US all stars to beat the Argentine First Division all stars. In my mind it would rank with our full nats victory over Mexico in last summer's Woeld Cup. Which is not to say that it is impossible, just that the Argentine team is definitely that good, at least if they decide to play.

What I particularly like, as an MLS fan, is that this is actually happening. The idea that US-based players, playing in their own league, can compete on the world stage and hold their own (I hope) is a dream come true. I love Argentine football. I have seen perhaps 70 games in person in various stadiums in Argentina over the years and countless more on TV. I think the domestic league is, in entertainment and quality and atmosphere, easily the best in the world. It may not rank with the EPL, La Liga, even Brasil, etc. is sheer class of players but if you buy a ticket to a match in Argentina you are going to see a great show, one way or another, guaranteed.

So, in my opinion, if the current US team does well today it will be a great measuring stick as to how far we have come. Even if we lose by a couple of goals but hold possession, force our style on the game it will be the equivalent of getting a Master's degree and preparing for the PhD.

Can't wait for noontime!

JIM DOW

 

No offense, guys, but this thread is far too pessimistic.What is this, 1995?? Maybe we should stop worrying about what they are going to do to us and maybe they should start worrying about what we're going to do to them. Argentina -- a talented, talented young team. Now let's go throttle them.

 

I would say that Reyna, Jones and Stewert are not going to be with the National Team for this 2006 cycle. Probably not Joe-Max either. And Hejduk basically only plays well in the WC anyway. So basically were missing our keepers and McBride, O'Brien and Sanneh. All in all this is pretty much our full squad.

 

What about Steve Cherundolo? Cory Gibbs? Conor Casey? Freddy Adu?


Did anyone forsee Landon and Run DMB starting in Suwon back in 99? A lot can happen in four years, pal.

 

I wasn't saying this was our 2006 squad, just pretty much the full 2003 squad.

 

This guy knows his stuff!