When you play a Spurs reserve centre half as right back that suggests that there is a lack of options in defence. But you know, I'm sure there is a second choice Argentinian defender who plays for Juve who will solve our problems.
There's no dominant team in this Copa, that's the reality. You think Brazil is going to thrash every team? well they could score against teams like Venezuela and Paraguay and we did. You ignore the fact that Brazil arrived in semi after winning a shootout against non favorite Paraguay. If Argentina needed a shootout against Venezuela, you'd say we're very lucky to even get there but when Chile and Brazil couldnt score and won it via penalties, I'm sure you dont consider that as bad performance. Only when Argentina put bad performance its really counted as a real bad performance. I know this has been the attitude of some fans. Uruguay put great performance at group stage, they also beat Chile, yet they're out before us. You cant explain things like that. You dont need to be the best team to win Copa. In WC , most of the time the best team won but not in Euro or Copa. Uruguay only had 3 wins in 2011 Copa and lifted the thropy. There has been way too many games in Copa that were decided via shootout since the gap between South American teams has been getting smaller and smaller.
This is why I dont get it when players that clearly has individual talents like Foyth and Lautaro still gets criticized for being not good enough . Footballing intelligence will come through experience, even Messi used to be a crazy dribbler , yet he scored less back then. As time progressed, he evolved into a complete player we all know today. Some people probably never realiaze players like Foyth and Lautaro are only 21, that is more than a decade younger than Messi. Their age is actually closer to the current u20 players and they already doing this good in major tournament regardless their age... now imagine what they're capable 2-3 years from now.
Armani/Rulli/Musso Montiel/Foyth Pezzella/Martinez Quarta Funes Mori/Kannenann Tagliafico/Casco? Paredes/Kranevitter? De Paul/Lo Celso Palacios/Pereyra Messi/Dybala/Lanzini Agüero L. Martinez Icardi
PENALAZO AL KUN pic.twitter.com/yo6JzKJYfj— PASION RIVER (@PasionRiverRP) July 3, 2019 Our players needed to be shot in the penalty area to get a penalty— look at this angle; this is ludicrous we didn’t get a penalty for this. Also, this should have been Dani Alves’ 2nd yellow card. We could’ve tied the game at this point, and they should have been a man down. Downright thuggery.
It's ridiculous they used VAR like a billion times in previous games to look at shit that was like millimeters offside and then can't be arsed to look at a potential game changer like this. I'm not even sure VAR would have gotten it right but at least pretend to be concerned.
The Otamendi elbow to the neck without attempting to play the ball also a red any other day. Var had zero interest in any of this lmao. Alves is such a dirty rat of player this Brazilian team is despicable
Yup, the elbow was actually to the neck — not even the chest. Hitting the neck should have been a straight red — and look at the slow motion, the Ref is right there looking at the incident. I am glad for once Messi came out and said that CONMEBOL won’t do anything because it is Brazil. Messi also said that it was a show of disrespect to Argentina. What’s the use of playing if the ref is going to cheat openly....if anyone says we could have done more, perhaps....but we were really disrespected in this game. 1146318062989148161 is not a valid tweet id
According to TyC, the VAR referee told Zambrano, the main referee, that he should check the VAR for a possible penalty on Aguero, but Zambrano refused. If this is true then Fk Zambrano, there's no harm in watching the VAR. Referee ruined the game.
You know people always blame afa for our lack of structure blabla I blame them for not having enough money to match Brazil's bribe.
Refs need to check VAR when players ask them to ? Well, that's something new ... The officials doing VAR are the ones that notify the ref if something deserves his review.
https://www.tycsports.com/copa-amer...l-penal-de-dani-alves-a-agueero-20190703.html Leodán González advirtió a Zambrano sobre el penal de Dani Alves a Agüero 03/07/2019 09:44 am El uruguayo a cargo del VAR le avisó al ecuatoriano que el capitán brasileño podría haberle cometido falta al Kun en la previa al segundo gol, pero el árbitro decidió apegarse a su decisión inicial y no chequearlo en pantalla, tal como lo avala el reglamento. La semifinal entre Argentina y Brasil estuvo cargada de polémicas por varios fallos controversiales de Roddy Zambrano, pero, especialmente, por la jugada previa al segundo gol del local, en la que se percibe una falta de Dani Alves sobre Sergio Agüero dentro del área. Según pudo averiguar TyC Sports, el uruguayo Leodán González, encargado del VAR, le avisó al juez principal que había habido un posible penal. Sin embargo, el ecuatoriano decidió no revisar la jugada y terminó por convalidar el tanto de Roberto Firmino. Lo cierto es que Zambrano, como árbitro principal, tenía la potestad de no acudir al VAR si consideró que tuvo una imagen lo suficientemente clara de la jugada. Probablemente esa haya sido la causa de su decisión del ecuatoriano, que terminó muy cuestionado. Para graficar, en las semifinales de la Copa Libertadores 2017 entre River y Lanús se vivió una situación similar a esta, en la que el uruguayo Andrés Cunha le avisó a Wilmar Roldán sobre un penal de Iván Marcone en el área granate que el colombiano decidió no revisar. Lo mismo sucedió al año siguiente en en los cuartos de final entre River e Independiente, cuando el brasileño Wilton Sampaio advirtió a Anderson Daronco sobre el penal de Javier Pinola a Martín Benítez en el Monumental.
Please read my post again, I said that that VAR referee suggested to the main referee to check VAR for the possible penalty. I never said anything about the players.
Misread it. Not sure if those communications are public though. So wonder how they'd get their hands on it.
I cannot remember a single penalty call in a major international tournament where the attacking player was not anywhere near the ball and got the call from the referee. Why would it be different this time?
No, the rules clearly say that if a player fouls an opponent in the penalty area, it is a penalty. The ball doesn’t even have to be near.
That aspect of the rule is never called in international tournaments, however. Why would this be different for this specific match?
I wouldn't say never. How about penalties awarded for fouls in the box on a free kick/corner before the kick was taken? Seen that plenty of times. I do think I've seen it in the run of play as well but can't remember the last time.
Lol, man — they didn’t have VAR to review these incidents. Now they do, especially when the VAR referee told the main referee to review it. It was a penalty. Plain and simple, per the rules. By the way, here is a small sample of Coutinho dictating play — Messi is Messing around 😃😃 pic.twitter.com/OItGXJmWEI— Sir Femo وبالله توفيق 🏖 (@JaJa_Of_Agege) July 3, 2019
If this is a penalty and has been VAR reviewed, then the Otamendi's one should have at least been VAR reviewed.
Very few of those get called in international tournaments, at least referring to WC, Euro and Copa America. But at least with a dead ball play there is the expectation that the ball will go to the opponent's penalty area, not the case necessarily with a run of play. No one can give an example because it has not ever happened at any of these tournaments yet. VAR is a new tool that no one yet has really figured out, and the complaints of its overuse and misuse have escalated during this tournament. It is best left alone unless in extreme situations and hopefully it goes in that direction. VAR is not there to be your pacifier, you are a little past of age to be acting like this.