> Manny was talking as if whatever brand of > Christianity he prefers is absolute reality Well, jeez, what do you expect for a Christian? Of course whatever brand of Christianity he prefers is absolute reality to him. That's what being a Christian means. And with a thread about heaven and hell, how do you expect him not to post about his beliefs?
Since my beliefs have neither a heaven nor hell, it is impossible for me to go to either one. If anyone here believes they are going to heaven, will you be wearing regular clothes or will you bring a toga?
Good Point, I can't even tell you where I'm going for happy hour today. But I know I will definitely be wearing a toga.
Wrong again. It's MY reality, and mine alone. Others may suscribe to the same train of thought, but that is their decision. The question of this thread is "are you going to heaven or hell. I'm Catholic, so i know that it is not up to make such an assumption. Jesus will make this decision during the last judgement. Remember, this is how I see it going down. I'm not speaking for the next guy. i was asked a question and i answered it the best i can. I am not asking for anyone to believe as i do;I'm simply telling you what i believe. Cause that's what the threads about remember? I don't appreciate the comment you made tho about people "taking me seriously." I don't see how my religious beliefs make me more/less believable.
Re: Re: Are you going to Heaven or Hell? Flaming poop on a stick Batman...that's a shocker! Sorry Manny..you caught me off gaurd with that one.
It seems to me that unless Gremista explicitly isn't the next guy (and he's who you were quoting), then saying that Christ will decide if Gremista and his friends wind up in Hell is speaking for the next guy.
As a Calvinist (though Augustine and Luther say the same), it is my duty, though it does not make me happy, to inform you and everyone else that whether you are going to heaven or hell was eternally predestined and there's nothing you can do about it. Nevertheless, depsite having no ability to change this result, you are morally responsible for consequences of your action or inaction in accepting or not accepting to believe in Christ. That's clear, isn't it?
Actually I think it is. Even as someone with little use for Christianity, I find John Calvin's ideas fairly interesting (and crucial if you hope to understand the political and social history of 17th and 18th century New England). My understanding is that he posited as a logical corollary to predestination the notion that there was a necessary relation between whether a man had been saved and how he behaved in his life. After that, criminal justice is more or less pest control. It is probably more important that he seems to have been horrified at the notion that so weak and fallible a creature as a man could possibly influence his own salvation. From Calvin's perspective, the Catholic Church of his day must have been offering the very height of cookbook salvation. Say a few rosaries, buy a few indulgences and let the village priest seduce your daughter, and it really didn't matter what you believed.
I'm pretty certain I'm going to Hell. I've made fun of too many retarded people. Not to their faces or anything, but it's still bad.
It offends me that this religion talk has been brought into the politics forum. Next thing you know, you'll be asking that we put the ten commandmants at the top of each page.
So now you're trying to tread on my right to mix religion and politics? Who are you? Bizarro Ashcroft? Maybe we should have a philosophy and religion board?
Yeah, I've told that one a few times. After all, women are like dogs and steaks; they're better when they're beaten.
Have you never seen "Life Goes On"? If there's one thing that show taught us, it's that nothing is funnier than the handicapped. Other than the mentally handicapped.