It's not uncommon for other posters to say they're fed up with TFC, but it kinda speaks volumes on this forum when all three mods here are even fed up with their own team.
They're still my team and I'll always support them, but I can't justify paying good money for such a fustercluck of a front office.
with the arrests today, its plain to see that the players just as much as the fans, are through with trying this season. like many here, ive been watching the team since game 1. ive been to as many games as i could, and even went out of my way to tell people that toronto fc games are the most exciting games to watch in toronto. its a shame that the product on the field isnt as exciting.. Am I fed up? F*** yes. Am I loosing interest? not really. since 2007, my main focus was switched from BPL soccer, to MLS. Only because I want to see soccer in the united states (and canada) develop into a league that compete against the top tier teams in europe. Since then the league itself has become more reputable, and mls is making a name for itself. In 10 years or so, i can see the league competing against bigger opponents, not being taken as a joke. As far as TFC goes, I think it goes to show that mls needs a promotion/relegation along with the nasl. I will not give up on my team, because its MY team. I will however, refrain from going to any more games this season, and until they can get their shit together. Im also done buying merch. I have every seasons jersey,but i wont be getting this years. (even though i saw it for real cheap). Im done awarding MLSE with my hard earned money, in exchange for mediocrity. or dare i say, atrocity. Expect a letter of apology at the end of the season from the f.o. ala maple leafs.
Honestly, I'm not planning on renewing after this season. Going to make a point of letting the rep know the reason I'm dropping tickets is Anselmi's incompetence as a football executive.
G.ot a white TFC jersey for father's day. I love this team, to bad so many of her players, and front office people don't seem to feel the same way. Anyhow, they will get better, I believe.
Actually the first 20 minutes of the SKC game were really bad. The team could play like that for 90 minutes, lol. But here is my kick at it: 1) Soolsma is ticked he is not playing - have a drink 2) Silva was tickled pink because he did play and play well he did - have a drink 3) Acelval has just headed too many balls - have a drink
Do you have knowledge that this is the first time they have gone drinking this season? Or is it just the first time that TFC players' drinking has become a police matter? If it is the former, your conclusion might hold....if the latter, your conclusion is week.
Not anymore, it isn't. At one point, I would've agreed with you, but it's gone way beyond that point now.
DONT SAY THAT!!! every time some one says that, things somehow become worse they said it during the 0-9, and they hired Mariner, and somehow they were worse in that game. they said it again and then three players got arrested. NO MORE SAYING THAT IT CAN'T GET WORSE!! It's like every time someone says we can't get worse, someone in the organization *cough* Cochrane *cough* says "Challenge accepted!"
hey man, its not like i know them personally, i know just as much as you.. thats just what it sounded like happened in my head. i never said it was fact.
Gotta say that I'm fed up with supporting them from a live environment or through merch, but I will always be gravitated toward a t.v or live-stream when it is on out of pure intrigue that hopefully progress will be made. At this point I'm not expecting playoffs for another 2 years and to be honest, during winters reign I really wasn't anticipating playoffs this year either... maybe in 2012/13. The thing is mlse don't have stupid upper management, they just lack communication and customer retention skills. I keep preaching this in every rant lol, but not only do TFC have to become educated in an elastic market and hire employees that are specialists in that field, but also need to hire a change management firm to carry through the change. Half the reason for this clustershit is simply tfc putting up a cardboard wall instead of building a stone one. IF from DAY ONE they looked right at the supporters and fans and said guess what. Were not making playoffs this year. OR next year. But We should be targeting playoffs by 2013 (woooo year 3?...) Its going to be a long ride and some painful games but stay with us, help us water the seeds so we can grow a garden full of annuals. Might take longer then the traditional mls build, but your playoff and season performance on a year to year basis won't look like a Sine Curve. They would have established a structured time table and communicated to the fans that its going to take time. Most people might not see it this way, but in a market like toronto with extremely intelligent sports fans, you have treat fans like employees and make the change easy for them as well as make sure communication throughout is positive and clear. There just as big of a stakeholder deciding the future of the club as anyone else. We could lose every game this year but if we are increasing our passing accuracy,decisions, off ball movement, teamwork and just gotta work on finishing then progress is being made and the development of a gelling team would take shape. Fans wouldn't have such high expectations and anselmi wouldn't be sweating at the brow because there would be no back peddling and spoon feeding bullshit. Everyone would hopefully respect and be apart of the progression of change, and be on the same page. Since they didn't go that route, Media becomes impatient and stirs the pot to allow the pressure cooker to heat up, and you have a miss-communication among fans expecting great things in a short time since they ('promised playoffs').MLSE's problem is there stuck in a paradigm where its ok to maintain business models because advertising and sponsors cover the loss of ticket revenue and have the luxury of having an inelastic hockey team that never loses ticket revenue. They think they can just overhaul a system without being frank and open to the fans fully completely and everything would be just peachy keen throughout thick and thin. Sorry bout the length this has been steeping for a while lol. As for me I'll keep supporting on the principal of the club, and the players that are being mashed back into a ball and reshaped like play dough.
Mind dividing that into paragraphs to make it readable? That could just mean putting a space in between paragraphs if they are there. I'd hate for something that you put so much time into writing to go unread. : ) Cheers
You are correct. We got to the final four twice with Pat Burns and twice with Pat Quinn! Those teams were damned good. They just couldn't get across the final hurdle.
Klinsmann was a short term consultant. He's been gone for a long time. Anselmi and PB made the decision on to hire choosing from a list prepared by Klinsmann's company. He really had very little to do with any of this.
Am I fed up? With many aspects of the circumstance, yes, of course but that doesn't mean TFC isn't still my team. TFC is my team. It's as simple as that. I can be angry, depressed and physically ill about them but they are still my team.
They will remain my team no matter what. That said, my following of the team has become far less intense than it once was. I also have no plans to give them any more of my money (as opposed to, say, watching games on TV) until they produce a winning team. Not even championship winning, just 0.500 or so and making the playoffs. I'll echo the comments of other posters in expressing frustration not with the resources devoted to the team (which have been excellent) but with the results those resources generate. Yes, it takes some time to build a winner. Six years, however, is way too long in MLS.
outsider here. but has the GM always been the same over these 5 years? I dont mean the technical director, I mean the GM. I guess what I would look at is which personnel has been here all 5 years (except for players). I feel the problem is a cultural problem. You guys need a trappattoni level coach.
Even the GM (or equivalent, sometimes with TFC that role has been called something else) hasn't been consistent. The only constant over the life of TFC has been the ownership and executive, which is where the fans' ire is currently directed.
I was looking at Anselmi's education ... Bachelor's at Ryerson .. I have a friend who went to Ryerson, the cheating is so rife, he didn't have to study his last two yrs, they pass the answer manuals around during the tests , the lazy ass professors give the same tests yr in and yr out .. oh, and another degree at U of Saskatchewan .. well, I learnt something today, U of Sask exists..
Are we suggesting that you need a Yale or Harvard degree to run a football club? Where did Sir Alex go to school? Pep Guardiola ? Perhaps you could email your own transcripts to the board of MLSE and show them the error of their ways