Are We Headed for a Texas Shootout?

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by paladius, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that the Scorpions have a corporate sponsor (Toyota) and plans for a very nice stadium, isn't it a matter of time before Hitch makes the pitch to move up to MLS? Just like the Cascadia Cup, Texas could have The "Texas Shootout" involving three teams... and just think how nice a road trip to San Antonio would be as opposed to going to that hellhole they call Houston, Texas.

    The renderings make it clear that the stadium could easily be upgraded to MLS capacity levels, and I think they have a 3-stage plan to get to that point.

    I give them 3 years before they get approval. Now all that's left is selling out Scorpion Stadium and bringing in even wealthier ownership partners.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/tuesday-august-28-2012.1973792/#post-26355833
     
  2. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They get Toyota and we get Advocare? Come on, man... :mad:
     
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  3. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know, I know...
     
  4. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is their ultimate intention after one or two upgrades... Scorpion Stadium Large Capacity.jpg
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much is Toyota paying and how much is Advocare paying?

    Seriously, why don't people asking that question more often? If Toyota's paying $1.50 and Advocare's paying $5 million, I can tell you which one is a better sponsor.
     
  6. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not going to say that that picture is meaningless, but the Silverbacks also had neat renderings of their stadium in later "phases."
     
  7. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, but this is Hitch we're talking about, so it must be true... (prepares to get flamed)
     
  8. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You forgot the sarcasm tags. Some people need those.
     
  9. theodore

    theodore Member

    Nov 7, 2003
    I've been to the complex. It is a mini Frisco soccer complex sort of place. They have a ton of youth fields surrounding the site. I believe that each youth field has some sort of corporate sponsorship / and sign. The existing stadium in across the street from the youth fields, but the new stadium will be in the same parking area. There is also some sort of amusement/water park connected. The locals all say that the existing stadium is packed and rocking on game nights. I get more worried about a team relocation ala Dynamo when the park is completed.
     
  10. Kermmy803

    Kermmy803 Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Denton County, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seeing that MLS is supposedly putting up around $300M to build a stadium for the "next" NY franchise and Orlando is making a strong push for entry in the league, SA is probably at best the leagues 3rd choice right now, and probably lower due to this being their 1st year.

    BTW, their ability to pack the stadium is a first year thing right now. Let's see them do it over an extended period of time, especially after the newness wears off.
     
  11. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's see how San Antonio keeps up over the next few seasons. The stadium is going to be beautiful, but it doesn't mean they're getting into the MLS.

    I think in the MLS expansion forum they have something about San Antonio, and someone mentioned FCD moving there. I nearly bit his head off... Talk about making NO ONE happy!
     
  12. theodore

    theodore Member

    Nov 7, 2003
    If you will recall, HSG sent Hitch to San Antonio while he was our GM. We speculated about just such a relocation thing way back when. Interesting that he transitioned into the new SA position shortly afterwards. Is Hitch still on our payroll?
     
  13. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Even though Dallas underachieves at the gate compared to the majority of the league, they have improved dramatically this year and are finally building some staying power when it comes to a fan base. The Beer Garden has been a huge step forward.

    Don't think MLS was looking the other way when FC Dallas Stadium was standing room only vs. the Galaxy. That shows the potential we have here. Trust me, MLS noticed. With Dallas being the 8th-largest city in America, Garber knows there must be a team here.
     
  14. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That won't happen... but even if it did, Dallas would get another team with NEW OWNERSHIP!!!
     
  15. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think he's a stealth GM. I think he was fired and saw the potential in a different type of model (non-profit) in San Antonio with less pressure on him to create huge attendance.

    I once had a meeting with Hitch about services I could offer FCD while he was the Dallas GM. It stunned me to see how little control he had over spending even the tiniest dollars without permission. I thought to myself, "this is the guy that helped the Galaxy pack 27,000 fans into HDC over and over again at ridiculously high ticket prices and yet he can't cross the street in Frisco without Clark's permission?" The dollars are wound up so tight at FCD/HSG Front Office that they squeak.
     
  16. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    True, true...good point.
     
  17. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there any problem beer can't solve?
     
  18. vichuck

    vichuck Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    New Braunfels
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plus, I didn't see anywhere in the article where they are going to be on the jerseys. This is a stadium sponsorship and though they will have the Toyota name, it looks like it's being paid for locally by SA-area dealers.
     

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