Are we better or worse, WTF is going on - Summer 2021 transfer thread.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Feb 4, 2021.

  1. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    They have been telling us this since the season ended. Anyone that can count can figure this out, they want a starting right back; two midfielders to replace the expected departures of the four midfielders on loan plus Ceballos and Xhaka, one a starter and someone good enough to fill in when Partey and Elneny leave for AFCON; and an attacking mid to compete with/provide cover for Smith-Rowe, presumably also capable of playing the wide attacking mid roles. That’s four and it doesn’t include a number two keeper, a backup up for Tierney, and their apparent desire to add another centerback.

    Serious question, I’m not trying to be cynical, who is LTArsenal? I’ve seen his tweets linked on big soccer a lot the last couple of years, but haven’t really paid that much attention to them or to their accuracy. Is he just a random blogger or is he someone who actually has insight into Arsenal’s plans?
     
  2. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Didn’t say you can determine anything other than athleticism from videos. I’ll give you another example, I knew nothing about Tyler Adams until he was linked here. Watching his highlights I can’t tell whether he’s good enough to play for Arsenal, what I can tell is he’s very quick when he closes on an attacker, so he’d probably be useful for a team that presses.
     
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  3. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Offer 25,000,001 for Grealish.

     
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  4. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    AV: Hey, will give you 25m for ESR
    Arsenal: GFY
     
  5. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
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    Someone needs to bust AV's kneecaps
     
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  6. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    1403479217216630788 is not a valid tweet id


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  7. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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  8. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Seeing elsewhere that is was a 40m GBP offer...

     
  9. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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  10. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
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    That's josh kroenkes house keepers twitter account
     
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  11. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    report from Germany claiming that BvD have made contact with Duezi's agent
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    @EddieLongbridge is almost at good at Twitter as AOC.
     
  13. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Ohh, offers to 4 players this week - White, Lokonga and two suprises!

    https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-defender-set-join-stuttgart-20834591

    Selling Mavropanos for £7m, I hope that includes a sell-on clause because I could see him going to Italy in a year or two for 4 times that amount.

    And £2.5m for Kolasinac! What is the opposite of a sell-on clause? Can Lazio pay an extra 500k or something when they eventually buy out his contract?
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    #1614 ArsenalMetro, Jun 16, 2021
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    The persistence of the Ben White news has me thinking that we're switching to a back 5 next season. There's no good explanation otherwise. Should probably hold on to Mavropanos if that's the case, but I digress.

    The Adams rumors add to it. I think it's a bad idea to play that hybrid RWB/CM at all, but Pep does it, so Arteta wants to try it.

    So the team would look something like:

    GK: Leno
    LCB: Gabriel
    CB: Holding
    RCB: White
    LWB: Tierney
    RWB: Adams/new signing
    CM: Partey
    CM: Lokonga/new signing
    LW: ESR
    RW: Saka
    ST: Aubameyang

    Defensive cover: Saliba, Mari, Chambers, Cedric, new LB?

    Midfield cover: Elneny, new signings

    Forward cover: Martinelli, Pepe, Balogun

    I hate that setup, so I hope I'm wrong.

    Edit to add: this is the first time I've ever paid attention to Locatelli, but through 53 minutes against Switzerland, he looks like everything we wanted Xhaka to be.
     
  15. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    I'm gonna have to disagree. While Arteta makes some bad decisions, I believe he is tactically intelligent enough to realize that we played better this season when in a 4-2-3-1. He has also openly stated that he intends to stick with the 4-2-3-1 (atleast for now). For me the purchase of White means either...

    A) Someone is gonna be moved. Most believe it will be Saliba but I truly hope that is not the case and I've seen no real rumors to support him being moved. My preference would be to move Mari and run with Gabi, Holding, Saliba & White as your 4 man CB group with Chambers as your emergency 5th.
    B) Arteta foolishly thinks we need 5 CBs next season.
     
  16. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I think we should cash in on one of Holding or Chambers.

    I’d move Holding because I think he’d bring in more money and because Chambers is more versatile, which is a big plus in a backup.
     
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  17. Ofori

    Ofori Member+

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    This is a new look Arsenal I can get behind
     
  18. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    Id be surprised if Chambers moved as it seems he will figure in the 2-deep at RB. I could see the argument for Holding but given that he is arguably our best (stats) CB right now, is HG and part of our leadership group I think it would need to be a pretty strong offer to sell.
     
  19. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I’m seeing reports that Saliba has been transfer listed. This may just be speculation because of the reports about negotiations over White, with some blogger/journalist jumping to the conclusion that Saliba is gone.

    It is also possible Arteta has concerns about Saliba’s maturity, not as a player, but as a person. The report also said Guendouzi had been transfer listed. If they are the only two players transfer listed it raises the possibility they are listed for similar reasons. We have seen indications of Guendouzi’s immaturity. Other than a video when he was 15 or 16, I don’t think we’ve seen any indications of immature behavior on the part of Saliba. Even in his interviews when he expressed disappointment at not being given a chance this season he qualified he statements by saying he understood it was part of football.

    if the latter is the case, I truly believe Arteta is being short sighted. Saliba has all the tools and he’s only 20. I suspect he has a higher ceiling than White.
     
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  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    I can't imagine that Arsenal is financially stupid enough to eat £15 million on Saliba after a year.

    Even if Arteta doesn't rate him at all, selling him is obscenely irresponsible.
     
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  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    That's because Edu is a ghola.
     
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  22. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Two years, to be fair. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  23. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    England
    If we sel saliba arteta is a clown and so is edu

    he doesn’t trust kids unless he has to

    not everyone can be a 32 year old Mikel
     
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  24. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I don’t think being ‘transfer listed’ is a real thing.

    Also, I guarantee you Saliba is immature in a big picture sense: he’s fvcking 20 years old! But we’ve also been told over and over again how maturity for his age is something that impresses all of his coaches (other than Arteta, apparently.)

    He needs to be given a legitimate chance to compete for this club, and it has to be on Arteta if he isn’t.
     
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  25. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I agree, but if they are willing to pay up to £50m for White, they are not buying him as a squad player, he’s the starter at RCB and all this talk about Saliba having a chance to prove himself and compete for the job is just lip service. Arteta doesn’t need to evaluate his ability against inferior competition in July, he should have game film of all his Ligue 1 games, including Nice’s game against PSG and Mbappe. The only thing I see potentially being evaluated is his work ethic in practices.
     
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