Aragones goes to a new low........

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Arsenal_pwns_all, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Arsenal_pwns_all

    Arsenal_pwns_all New Member

    Aug 13, 2004
  2. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You put that with the racist chants directed at the English youth players yesterday and it seems that Spain do have a problem... and makes Aragones' innocence plea over his earlier Henry comments a little more shallow as well...
  3. 0-Point

    0-Point Member

    Jun 5, 2004
    Quantum flux
    Certainly does - I think he was highlighting wot he perceives 2 b English hypocrisy. Anyway I wonder who those fans were trying 2 motivate?
  4. Prawn Sandwich

    Oct 1, 2003
    And of course Spain has a perfect record in their colonial past as well - the conquistadores would never have done anything bad [cough] the aztecs [/cough]
  5. PYordan

    PYordan New Member

    Aug 31, 2002
    Pamplona, Spain
    Aragones is one of those people who whenever they say anything to the media you are fully prepared to cringe. He must have been extremely limber back in his fútbal playing days, because he does a very good job of getting his foot all the way up to his mouth whenever he talks. By now they should know that he shouldn't ever be allowed to talk about anything other than the formation he is going to play.

    He won't be sacked for any of this, of course. This is Spain we are talking about, and it certainly isn't a country that prides itself on political correctness.

    There is a hilarious amount of seemingly innocent racism in this country.
  6. arsenalgirl30016

    Dec 10, 2003
    Flo Rida
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw the interview with him on Fox Sports World and he basically blames the press for pushing the issue. Saying you will print what you want and say what you want. He is really defensive for something he terms as trival or not even worth mentioning.

    And no kidding about who they are trying to motivate with racist chants?!!???!!?!? Why would you want to say it in the 1st place.....
  7. bergkamp10

    bergkamp10 New Member

    Feb 10, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Don't discount cultural differences. What we perceive as racist behaviour may be accepted as normal in other countries and vice-versa. I believe that his points were lost in translation.
  8. Prawn Sandwich

    Oct 1, 2003
    So chanting monkey noises is just a cultural distinction?
  9. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    I've been told that what he said was a particularly nasty description of Henry's colour etc. Apparently the Spanish language allows certain less vicious euphemisms which wouldn't have been as bad, although they would have translated the same. But either way, whether he's racist or not saying it in front of the cameras is a particular stupid thing to do. It also seems too much of a coincidence for the rascist chanting at the game last night not to be connected. I don't recall ever hearing that amount of monkey noises at a previous Spanish international...

    Oh also, for gods sake, can't the racist scum find a new insult, I mean monkey chanting is 30 years old!
  10. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    The reaction from the English in general makes those doing it win.
  11. Prawn Sandwich

    Oct 1, 2003
  12. JCGooner

    JCGooner New Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    I'm so sick of the "he's from a different generation" excuses, it just means he's been a racist for a longer time. Arragones should be fired immediately.
  13. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    No it doesn't. The people doing it would have won if Cole, Jenas, WP and Defoe had been intimidated and given up.

    The English media is highlighting the unacceptable nature of racism.
  14. surfcam

    surfcam Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Corpus Christi, TX
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA/UEFA should have nipped this in the bud when Aragones made his initial remarks. Those comments made in the US in todays society would have spelled out his being sacked. Age is not a factor. Inappropriate comments are just that, no matter how old you are. The adage "older and wiser" doesn't seem to fit for this geezer.

    I believe there will most likely always be racism in society, but it is the job of those in power to discipline those who tout racist polices and actions.

    Aragones should be fired, the Spanish FA fined, and the games monitored in the future. There is no place in football or society for these actions.

    That was a lot of soapboxing before my first cup of coffee.
  15. bergkamp10

    bergkamp10 New Member

    Feb 10, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Aragones not the crowd! (now I can't stop laughing)
  16. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    They did it to get attention, cause disruption and to generally piss you lot off. Considering the press have highlighted the issue at great length as opposed to discussing the game, part one worked. You could argue that part two worked because it helped to put the English players off the game. The final part was obviously successful. It's the same argument as the hostage taker one. They want their 5 minutes of fame to make a point, so why give exactly what they want?
  17. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    I'm glad Cole gave it to him a bit to be fair.. i think the guy is out of line totally and i sorta wish Ashley would of just did i nice slide tackle into the geezer...
    maybe that would of just started a riot, and violence isnt the answer.. but that aragones guy is just such a twat~

    i find it cute that twat can pass by on the naughty words list here on BS~

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