Anyway to spice up CCL?

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by waltlantz, Jul 4, 2014.

  1. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Yeah, but there are many non-competitive teams, especially in NorthAm.
     
  2. gremio1903

    gremio1903 Member+

    Aug 10, 2011
    Uruguaiana, RS (BRA) [last: Rockville, MD]
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Unavoidable problem. In UCL, and its 32 teams, it also happens.
     
  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    BATE Borisov is their Isidro Metapan.
     
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  4. gremio1903

    gremio1903 Member+

    Aug 10, 2011
    Uruguaiana, RS (BRA) [last: Rockville, MD]
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    APOEL, Maribor and, heresy!, Galatasaray, too.
     
  5. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    This year happening some incredible things :)) Premier League have no team in Champions League quarterfinals, and Mexico, after 10 years can have no team in CCL final :D
     
  6. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I would say its pretty spicy right now :D
     
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  7. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    This year could be an all-Tico final.

    I thought Costa Rica's World Cup performance last year was a fluke but instead it has translated to better results and success in the club competition level.
     
  8. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    how could you think that?
     
  9. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    In the mls forum you said america wins 5-0

    make up your mind dude!:D:p
     
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  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Costa Rica is becoming the Uruguay of CONCACAF.
     
  11. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    they will :p

    here I said : "and Mexico, after 10 years can have no team in CCL final"

    CAN, not sure :p
     
  12. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    #187 Unak78, Mar 20, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2015
    The format has also helped as I thought it would. No more margin of error in the 3-team groups. Mexican clubs may still try to lollygag their way through but it has been at their on risk and they are being bitten by it with increasing frequency.

    And that gave me an excuse to use the word lollygag! :)


    And Uruguay is slowly on their way back to being the Uruguay of the 1990's.
     
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  13. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    #188 Unak78, Mar 20, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2015
    Mexico wants to be in CONMEBOL but they don't want to BE in CONMEBOL if you get what I'm saying...



    I kid...
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's the cultural links too. Mexico has more in common with South America than Surinam with the rest of the Caribbean, or Israel with Europe.

    With the improvement by the Ticos, I wouldn't be surprised if they become a routine invitee to the Copa America.
     
  15. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Mexico is already every year in conmebol
     
  16. Jahinho_Guerro

    Apr 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    A few changes I would make:

    The Schedule:


    Start late February, end late November
    *40% of the matches played on Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays. All championship rounds played on weekends.
    (Getting more summer dates, and playing on weekends will increase attendance. Playing weekend games increase fan support home and away. Also the champion would go into the Club World Cup in form)

    The Format:

    Return to the exact format from the 2009 through 2012 instalments of the tournament .
    *Preliminary round for 16 teams, Group Stage, Championship Rounds
    (Increase in games, revenue, exposure, and tournament awareness)

    Country qualification berths:
    (4-USA, 4 - MEX, 3 - Caribbean, 3 - CRC, 3 - HON, 2 - PAN, 1 - CAN, 1 - GUA, 1 - ELS, 1 - NIC, 1 - BEL)

    Pot 1: Group stage
    US (2), MEX (2), CRC (1), HON (1), PAN (1), CAN (1)

    Pot 2: Preliminary Round
    US (2), MEX (2), CRC (2), HON (1), PAN (1), GUA (1), ELS (1), NIC (1), BEL (1)

    The Prize Money

    Group Stage : 1.2M distributed to each group (W=100K, D=50K)
    Advance to the Quarterfinals : 800K (100k per team)
    Advance to the Semifinals : 600K (150K per team)
    Runner Up: 50K
    Champions: 300K

    *Total money distributed is 6.55M
    *The most the a team can win is 1.15M

    The Marketing

    among many other things....
    Introduce a theme song : example:Long Version, Short Version
     
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  17. MK3owner

    MK3owner Member

    Jul 26, 2010
    Kissimmee FL.
    Club:
    Deportivo Toluca FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You realize the whole point of having cup games in the middle of the week is so that it doesn't interfere with league games, right? Personally I think we should introduce Bears into the equation. Can you imagine the intensity of the game when you have to avoid a 900lb apex predator whilst trying to score on the other team. Viewership would skyrocket, and the losing team would be fed to the Bear and its Cubs, medieval style. I know it sounds a bit far fetched, but its probably more realistic then expecting a CCL and Copa libertadores merger.
     
  18. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MK3, the leagues will survive having to play a number of mid-week matches themselves. It is a little strange that the most important matches all are played mid-week. We aren't Europe, where games on any day will be automatically followed. Where is it set in stone that nothing else can be played on weekends?
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    League games make more money that CCL games, especially during groups, early elimination rounds.

    Now they could try it with the Final(s) or something, but I am sure the Federations will not like it.
     
  20. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    Leage games DO make more money. But if you have an extra-mid week game, and you can sell 15,000 tickets for it, and lots of beer and food, then in the end, you are going to make more money with (say) 17 League games + 3 CCL games than just having 17 League games?

    It's not like anyone with the team is actually getting any more money, other than those selling the beer. And it's pretty clear (at least here in Toronto) from the published financial statements of the public stadium, that revenue increased when CCL (and Voyageurs Cup) games are being played. I suppose there's that plane you have to charter ... but I'd hope the extra TV revenue would at least cover that.
     
  21. MK3owner

    MK3owner Member

    Jul 26, 2010
    Kissimmee FL.
    Club:
    Deportivo Toluca FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Like ceezmad already mentioned the Federations will not do it. Especially the FMF, due to the fact that league games are far more popular and more important than the CCL.
     
  22. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Elaborate.
     
  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Tiny in population, big in fútbol.
     
  24. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    They were big in the 2000's also, not a one decade team
     
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  25. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Take one spot away from USA and give it to Costa Rica. Don't give Canada an automatic spot for being the best Canadian MLS team; make them work for it like the rest of their fellow MLS teams. In fact, let's give Canada's spot to a 3rd Honduran team.

    I'm not too sure I like the idea of 8 groups of 3 teams; 6 groups of 4 teams sounds more appealing IMO.
     
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