Anyone planning to move if Trump wins?

that’s why we need comprehensive reform. secure borders, some ability to process legitimate asylum claims, some agreement on how to deal with the millions of people who are here illegally, etc., the idea that we’re simply going to round up millions of people and ship them out just sounds like trumpy nonsense that hasn’t been thought through at all, because it hasn’t. He has no plan for this.

 

Do you agree that the current asylum process needs to be severely restricted? Asylum was created to help people suffering from true genocides in the wake of WW2. Not economic migrants.

 

I love Ike. He was a man!

 

That bill was an amnesty bill. No thank you. Democrats can't win elections so they let in whoever, give them citizenship, ebt cards and free apartments all on tax payers. Who do you think they'll vote for.

Deport them immediately. As for separation. The families can go with them!

 

I don’t know enough about it really. Seems like something that should be used sparingly and in extreme cases that can be verified but not as a giant loophole.

 

Over the decades the asylum entry requirements (before the claim is processed) had loosened so much that now essentially anyone from South America can claim they are threatened by gang violence to obtain initial entry before the claim is processed. When in reality they are economic migrants.

trump actually did a lot to solve this problem with “remain in Mexico” but Biden revoked that on Day 1 of his administration.

 

You’re Brazilian, living in Brazil? Did I hear that right?

 

I’ve said before that the Biden admin has blown it on immigration, and I’m a big Joe Biden fan. And Trump played politics with this issue when there was a bipartisan plan on the table, he didn’t want Biden getting any kind of credit for a win on immigration. But it was already too late for Biden to look like he was doing enough, by then. That’s part of why it’s the Republicans turn, again.

 

Biden deported criminals at the same rate as Trump. Look it up.

What he did NOT do was separate families at the rate that Trump did.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your story.

 

Then you must love Biden, because he did more than that:

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

 

My wife once represented a refugee from East Africa. It was illuminating. I think the system "worked" in the end, but man, it's a mess. I can't imagine going through that kind of stress.

 

It's a little more evil than that and both parties are complicit. Illegal immigration provides cheaper labor that contributes to taxes and does not get many benefits. Easy to deport if you suddenly have the economical need.

 

Hahahahaha this sums up the American anti-Trump "resistance" so well. Love it!

 

Feel free to tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.

 

Absolutely.

It's going to be really interesting to see what happens if Trump is really able to round up all the immigrants and send them away. A lot of farms and factories won't have any workers. Guess what will happen to costs.

If we can ever destroy the two-party system and assemble a bunch of grown-ups, maybe we can actually solve this. Streamline the visa process. Figure out a coherent policy on asylum.

 

It's funny out here in west Texas. The same farmers who are pro-Trump and want everyone deported will also say that Reagan's biggest mistake was tightening border security. They had a system here where immigrants were crossing the border, working the farms for 8-9 months, and then heading back to Mexico for the winter. The farmers will all admit that the old system didn't burden our health care system since the workers were gone during the months when most sickness was spreading and didn't burden the school systems since they left their families behind while working here.

Meanwhile now you literally have companies running newspaper and social media ads through Mexico and Central America to recruit workers that they bring in illegally.

 

I think I couldn't feel better than I already do at this moment. The American election results brought back the fire in me, and I will make sure I will fight for my country's freedom in 2026. I hope one day my brothers in Cuba and Venezuela will also be free of the left-wing dictatorshit.

 

Trump will ruin inflation-free America. The last four years have been like an economical Eden.

 

You know tariffs and an immigration crackdown are guaranteed to inhibit growth and jack up inflation, right?

 

Great state of Texas.

Colin Allred was a loser btw

 

Here's the thing ...

We think of political beliefs as a spectrum from left to right. It's really more of a circle. The extreme left and the extreme right are both authoritarian.

I also hope Cuba and Venezuela are free of their dictators. I also hope we don't fall into a dictatorship ourselves.

Once upon a time (say, 15 years ago), the Republican Party believed in limited government. Free trade. A passive approach to immigration. The Elizabeth Dole approach to abortion was to make it "safe, legal and rare."

Now they're getting serious about banning abortion. Some want to get rid of contraception and pornography. They're banning books. They want to tell transgender adults that they have to revert to their names and genders assigned at birth. They plan to get rid of nonpartisan government workers and replace them with inexperienced party loyalists -- just like the Communists always did. They want to muzzle the free press and punish anyone who has ever tried to hold them accountable for their crimes and corruption. They're friendly with Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orban, who grew up in Communist regimes and apparently missed the days in which the government told everyone what to do.

The Republicans are the anti-freedom party. They've gone to the place on the circle where the government controls your life and cannot be criticized.

Just like Cuba and Venezuela.

 

Last I checked the left made much more noise of regulating “disinformation” however the government decides to define it. In other words, the authority to ban speech the government as the arbiter of truth doesn’t like. And I can’t recall the left having any problem with it.