Anyone else watching the A-League?

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by BakedAlaskan, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. BakedAlaskan

    BakedAlaskan Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Ancho-RAGE,Alaska
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's almost like watching a mini MLS on a 6 or 7 year delay. New Marquee Players have added to the excitement and the crowds sound very similar to when Beckham, Angel and Ljungberg were playing. Most of the people are there to see the big names and not quite soccer chant savvy with the hardcore supporters, who are slowly growing yearly. Much more of an open style of play than MLS which is another way of saying that MLS is more defensive minded.

    Now if they just started having a rash of new stadiums to help their young and exciting league
     
  2. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    I do... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-league

    They share many similarities with MLS, including playoffs, recognition of premiers (regular season winners), salary cap, marquee (designated) players, youth (reserve) league, rivalries, etc...
     
  4. Zxcv

    Zxcv Member+

    Feb 22, 2012
    You forgot the biggest comparison with MLS: 2 teams folded!

    The new stadiums thing is never going to happen. New stadiums are a rare occurrence in Australia. Stadiums regularly host up to 3-4 different sports, and there is no single sports club in Australia that owns a stadium. They are all owned by trusts or cities.

    Australia is a tiny country by comparison. They have no real chance of ever emulating what MLS is currently doing, or what MLS will be doing in the future. Its a country of 22 million people, who are spread across 5 major cities. You can justify about 14 teams in that league before you run out of viable options; and that would include a handful of teams playing in markets in the 150-300k population range.

    On the flipside, its smaller population means the spread of the game is more concentrated. A-League does not have the problem of media coverage that MLS does. MLS does ok in media coverage in local markets, but A-League does well nationally. You will regularly see it on 6 oclock news, newspaper backpages, etc. They also have the Eurosnob problem though. In fact you will regularly see EPL/CL results in news sports sections.

    It has the opportunity to become nationally relevant quicker than MLS because of this, but it also means that as a soccer league, it has nowhere near the potential of MLS. Its just too small to be a major player, especially considering the potential of leagues in the AFC. MLS could be one of the top 3 soccer leagues in the world; A-League could be the Dutch Eredivisie of Asia.

    Could that have something to do with how Australian sports work? A-League takes its cues from other domestic Australian leagues, where they have regular season winners, playoffs (known as finals), salary caps, reserve leagues and so on. The only thing A-League can be accused of borrowing from MLS is the DP rule.

    Also, I'm not sure I understand the rivalries thing. Don't most leagues have rivalries? They put two teams in Sydney and Melbourne because they have no other options. There are only 5 cities in Australia with populations above 1m, and only two of those cities would constitute "major league" cities in the US.
     
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  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three, actually. The New Zealand Knights folded after the second season, North Queensland Fury folded two seasons ago, and Gold Coast United folded last season.
     
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  6. Peter Wilt

    Peter Wilt Member

    Jun 11, 1999
    Whitefish Bay, WI
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  7. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Seconded, the articles are awesome text book materials.
     
  9. Jough

    Jough Member+

    Jul 30, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having watched some A-league last year I will say that saying that "they play a more open style" is really stretching it... defense in the A-league is almost non-existent, as it was in MLS's early days as well. The games were often track meets.

    Also these annual clips always make me smile.



    Still, glad to see it growing, I'd love to catch a game down there some time.
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a little surprised the third clip with the guying swinging and missing the ball then going to the ground is included in the video. It is probably the most controversial play in A-League history. The guy, Berisha, is known as a diver and that play happened in the 90+7 minute of the Grand Final (eqv. MLS Cup). The referee awarded a PK, Berisha scored the goal, and the Roar won the championship.
     
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  11. CoconutMonkey

    CoconutMonkey Member

    Aug 3, 2010
    Japan
    Club:
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great stuff, Peter. You definitely understand the mind of a professional footballer.

    I thought you'd have a bit more to say about improving MLS, though. Do you think it's just a matter of continuing to carefully manage the growth of the league, or is there anything that simply needs "fixing" as we move forward?
     
  12. CoconutMonkey

    CoconutMonkey Member

    Aug 3, 2010
    Japan
    Club:
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not much A League. But I follow the J League relatively closely.

    Good enough for me, but I'm a pretty bad judge of quality of play.
     
  13. cloak

    cloak Member

    Aug 25, 2010
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    ~Adelaide and Heart~

    They may not attract quite the same DP (Visa) talent as MLS, but the style of play is more attractive and the general quality of their domestics is at least as strong as MLS.
     
  14. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    My favorites:
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The A-League is also far from being the first choice in Asia for Australian national team players. At the last qualifier Australia had eight players from an Asian league on the roster. Only two were from the A-League. The rest play in Japan, South Korea, Qatar, the UAE and sometimes Uzbekistan. I would say above all it's a money decision.
     
  16. VegasNYC

    VegasNYC Member

    Apr 22, 2011
    Australia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Great post. You summed up the situation here in Australia perfectly.
     
  17. Peter Wilt

    Peter Wilt Member

    Jun 11, 1999
    Whitefish Bay, WI
    Thx. Great question...it's not like there are any obvious things that should be doing that they're not doing. Growth is mainly dependent on increased revenue, which will simply take time. Here's a wish list:

    * New stadia for New England and DCU
    * 5 more teams: Queens, Atlanta (not sold on this. Large market and Coca-Cola....but it's not a very good sports market unfortunately), Orlando, St. Louis, Mpls (plenty of others that anyone could make a good argument for as well)
    * Large increase in broadcast revenues when current contracts expire in 2014 (this is critical and will drive most of the other items on this list)
    * Increase in player compensation associated with increase in revenues
    * Expansion of MLS youth development programs to younger ages and wider net to include academies in more non-MLS markets.
    * Sign and develop more elite players at younger ages
     
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  18. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    I enjoy it. I also enjoy watching the highlight packages on the J-League's YT site. It's about the same quality as MLS'. Also there are some SAfrica football fans that post highlight packages from the PSL.
     
  19. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am a Melbourne Victory supporter, and my club is not doing particularly well to start the year. The boys just got their first win of the season, though, and it couldn't come soon enough.
     
  20. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I enjoy occasional A League games, when I'm up all night and bored at 4am or something. more of curiosity thing due to similarities of A League to MLS
     
  21. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
  22. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    i think if you're up at 5am watching A-League, it's time to admit you have a soccer problem.
     
  23. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Maybe he works night shift (e.g. security guard, factory operations, etc...)? ;)

    Else, it's more than a Soccer Problem...
     
  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what DVR's are for.
     
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  25. Green and BLue

    Green and BLue Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC
    Nov 3, 2003
    Republic of Cascadia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have a soccer problem! I can quit any time I want to!
     
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