Anyone Catch That Beckham Dive?

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  1. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bravo. Pretty classless dive right there Beckham. Must be learning from Ruiz. Glad to know the league officials will only award him a ridicoulous PK like that.

    And, I'm not saying that we deserved more then a tie as Hesmer and the defense left their game on the plane along with Andy Iro?

    But, come on talk about Mickey Mouse. Anything to get him on ESPN highlights.
     
  2. garnet&blackattack

    garnet&blackattack New Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Columbia, SC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Get over it friend. You got a tie. (let's not even talk about that bogus foul on Xavier that led to the GTG)

    Plus, it's common nature for any ref internationally to be more hasty to award a PK to a team after he had already awarded it to the opposition.

    And, he didn't even take the PK, so how would that get him on ESPN exactly?
     
  3. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    He was definitely fouled. Was it a PK? Eh, depends on how your corn flakes went down that morning.

    However, I will say this: my immediate reaction was "That was Beckham that went down in the box, that WILL get called a PK."
     
  4. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your just sad that the game didn't get gift wrapped for you because of a little Stevie Lenhart fro magic. :D

    Ahh poor Galaxy, ahh poor Beckham. :( Not this time Alexei.

    And, please just look at the dive when they get the highlights up and be objective. I can admit that Xavier's supposed foul might have been a make up call as he got all ball but then he got player, Rogers didn't dive or anything at least. So at least feel free to admit that it was an obvious dive by Mr. Infallible.

    I get that it's what some players decide to do to get a call but the refs shouldn't call it just because it's Beckham. It's annoying, ridicoulous, and mickey mouse. And, I'm sorry that was probably(next to the Austria PK against Poland) the softest PK I have seen in a while. I don't even think a defender ever touched Beckham.

    Btw, hate to burst your buddle but I never have been a big Beckham fan. Now I'm not at all. And, I'm sure you will get more of a clue what the rest of C-bus thinks when they play us at our place on a corner.
     
  5. broder

    broder Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Mission
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Is this a joke? They showed the replay several times. It was most definitely a foul. Perhaps there was some diving to it but it's not like there was 0 contact or anything. The Xavier card was just flat out a bad call.
     
  7. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The call was very soft. I thought Beckham didn't dive, but the truth is he never really gets that many chances to dive. How many times do you see the ball on his foot inside the opponent's box?

    As questionable as the Becks PK was, it didn't compare to what the ref dealt to Xavier. How can someone get a yellow when there shouldn't have been a foul in the first place? How can a team lose their chance at 3 points on a free kick that shouldn't have happened?
     
  8. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, that's classy. We can do banners, i drove all the way to Peoria, 18 hours total in a car from PA, to get the Chicago-Crew banner, we can do a hundred million things to show we are not at all associated with that, and still that is the best retort. Classy there flash gordon, real classy.

    MLS fans never cease to amaze me. I'm talking about a dive, a dive, and you have to say something as disgusting as that? Nice.

    And, my bad I guess, how dare I question Beckham? If it was anyone else on a PK I might be onto something. But, the man is the almighty infallible Beckham.

    Okay, now I'm over it because there is no way I can win a battle against a guy that does nothing wrong. I'm just saying that MLS needs to stop putting certain players on a pedestal.

    And, I agree Schelotto dived a lot in Toronto. I'm against that as well. I think it's annoying when Schelotto resorts to that kind of similiar play.
     
  9. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you missed his last shot.
     
  10. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    You should go back and reread what you wrote with an outside frame of mind. The exact same thing popped to my head immediately.
     
  11. glyconerd

    glyconerd Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    Brilliant! Had me up in stitches. :D
     
  12. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least Xavier made some good contact with Rogers. From the refs angle, being a hard challenge, it looked like a foul until I saw a close replay.

    On Becks PK call, I believe O'Rourke put out his hand for a second and Beckham went down like he was hit by a sniper.

    I guess it was just, either way.
     
  13. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant middle fingers and streamers to Beckham like we do to everyone on corner kicks. We don't discriminate on corner kicks. And, we won't be screaming, "David can I get your autograph."

    That's what I meant and it should have been rather obvious.

    Wow. This lot is hopeless. I'm going to bed.
     
  14. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  15. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking back at the two incidents, I find it funny that Xavier's tackle is shown from three different angles, including X-mo, while the Becks penalty (which looks softer every time I see it) gets only one far shot. Great job, FSN West. Keep up the good work.
     
  16. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    rep
     
  17. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Btw, before every Galaxy fan starts hating,

    I liked that "LA Galaxy" call and response tonight earlier in the game. Did you guys get the whole stadium going on that? It was loud.

    And, now that I have calmed down a little both calls were crap. Oh well, I'm happy with the tie being down 2-0 with 20 minutes left.

    Especially happy since New England lost, Chicago lost, and TFC tied.
     
  18. CakeYear

    CakeYear Member

    none
    Jun 22, 2007
    Inglewood, Ca.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I'm a Galaxy fan and I don't think Beckham dived BUT I did feel that the ref should have not called a foul and awarded our team a penalty kick. He should've let it play on.
     
  19. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ref was horrible both ways. None of the officials even seemed to be able to tell something as simple as who touched the ball last when it went out of play. In the first half, Columbus had at least two totally inexplicable corner kicks.
     
  20. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I thought he took a dive, but maybe you can count it up as a make up for the missed handball in the box in the 3rd minute before LD scored on Love Me Sexy's drop in the box....
     
  21. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't respond to assholes who continue to parrot the MLS Rumors line of farce. If it makes some jerk happy to pretend that what one lone idiot said one time represents Columbus as a whole as he also pretends there's a single stadium anyplace where the same thing hasn't happened, then he's a moron and not worth responding to.

    As for the Schelotto clips, I've never been clear what that compilation was supposed to prove. There is definite, positive contact made in each and every one of the fouls shown. It's beyond question.

    Whoever put that together apparently doesn't know a foul when he sees one, and anyone who endorses it by posting it as proof of "diving" is just as ignorant.

    (And that leaves aside the short clip showing a group of seething, frothing at the mouth TFC fans obviously screaming "fuck you" and frantically waving their middle fingers, which I can't believe the compiler actually was so proud of that he included it. It says nothing whatever about Schelotto and a lots of things about TFC fans.

    In any case, those fans were abusing Hejduk standing on a sideline waiting to take a throwin - it has nothing whatever to do with Schelotto, although the compiler obviously wants you to believe otherwise)

    All that the video shows from a football standpoint is Schelotto making a meal out of being fouled, not him "diving". As I said, there's unquestionable contact in each case, a couple of them quite hard.

    And when you can point to one guy in the league who doesn't do the same thing, let me know.

    And the Beckham, part of this discussion is pure comedy:

    People are here defending the hell out of Beckham selling the foul and then griping about Schelotto for doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

    Do some of you actually read what you write before hitting "submit"?

    Here's Becks last night, flopping like a freshly boated bass on little or no contact. Far more flagrant than anything on the Schelotto video.

    In fact, it's almost comedic.

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    Bottom line, it's a very shaky call, but there were more than enough of them to go around - BOTH ways - last night. No one has a beef.
     
  22. GalaxyOne

    GalaxyOne Member+

    Dec 6, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You cannot actually tell from that video (or any TV replays that I saw) whether Beckham was clipped or not. If you have some other video that is actually useful, then please post it. Yes, it does sort of look like he may have dived, but you really can't tell from that poor angle with an obscured view whether or not he was clipped. So, maybe you ought to take your own advice about reading what you write before hitting enter (or in this case, actually looking at the video evidence you present). What the good, slow motion replays DID show were that the foul against Xavier leading to the final goal was completely wrong, and that the PK on Columbus' 2nd goal could easily be claimed a dive as well, though I can see why it would have been hard for the referee to detect it.

    In the end, Galaxy was given the benefit of doubt on one goal, while CB was given the benefit of doubt on one goal, and then gifted another.
     
  23. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who gives a shit, really.
     
  24. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Wait.

    I thought we played San Jose last week.


    I think that's the point, Bill. That's why ppl lashed out at the OP.
     
  25. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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    It goes both ways, L.A. Perhaps focusing on the game is best.
     

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