Any chance of Sol's red changed? So what do you think? After Halsey watches the replay he will change his mind, after all he went with the linesmens call. You could clearly hear the linesmen say "deliberate elbow to the face" and the replay shows it was not deliberately to the face but and attempt to secure that ball. Personally, I think not.
Sol was unlucky. He was putting his arm back to keep Solskjaer away from him. He made only slight contact with Solskjaer's face and chest. Ole is already a front runner for best actor award at next years Oscars for the way he went down though. The bad thing about it is that Sol will miss the final 3 games and the Cup Final if it is upheld. Lets hope Halsey takes it back to a yellow.
As I said under another topic, if the FA and Halsey uphold the suspension, I will question just how neutral the FA is. I have seen much worse go completely unpunished, including DB10's flailing elbow on Lee Bowyer against West Ham when he set up the winner. Campbell never even looked behind him to see where Ole was. He simply threw his arm out to fend him off and got it a little high. Considering Sol's 6'2", that's pretty easy for him. The fact that Halsey didn't even see the play and had to rely on his linesman just adds to the fact that, in reality, Halsey had no idea why he was pulling the red. After seeing the video of it, he has to do the right thing and reduce it to a yellow.
I don't think its gonna happen, ferguson has already done his little speech about someone getting seriously hurt by an elbow,just to help the FA of course. It amazes me how we are treated by the FA, both campbells red cards this season have imo been undeserved, and now an honest hard working pro is going to miss the biggest part of his season, while the divers and cheats manage to get away with it. JUst a final point DB was punished for the Bowyer incident, albeit some weeks later, Things do go unpunished though, like Van nostrihairs punch on Freddie when we beat them at old tartford last year.
compare this "elbow" to the one Ruud van Nistelrooy used on Malbranque to start his run on his "wondergoal" again.... one rule for man u, and one for the rest of the league.
Sol Campbell has been handed a lifeline after referee Mark Halsey agreed to review his controversial sending off at Highbury. http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,1860-1087812,00.html
Whatever happens, I'm just glad the incident happened at the end of the game, rather than the beginning. At least we were down to 10 men for only 8 mins.
not trolling here - just wanted to see what you guys thought. it's clear that Sol had the ball and that he wanted to keep Ole away from him so he deliberately threw back his arm to fend him off. this much is clear, right? from one angle it looks really bad (the linesman's angle). from the other angle you see more of the hand than the elbow. I don't know how Sol can say it wasn't deliberate ..... looked very clear to me that he wasn't doing it for balance. anyway that aside, you guys got lucky again with the offside and the deflection
luck Spare us about luck man. If you want luck, just take a look at being awarded 6 PKs at the theatre of screams this season by a single referree this season alone.
Re: luck touchy eh? I was talking about the game yesterday, remember April 16th, Wed.?? if you want to talk about other decisions then may I suggest you start a new thread.
A few quotes: "replays clearly showed some contact between elbow and nose." The Times "Though television evidence against Campbell for striking or attempting to strike an opponent is damming, Wenger was, as always, ready to defend the seemingly indefensible." The Telegraph "Sol Campbell was deservedly dismissed for flicking an elbow into Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's face" Telegraph again. "I admit that I touched him, but it wasn’t deliberate." Sol Campbell "Everybody who knows Sol knows he didn’t touch him on purpose. I can show some real elbows that we have got against us, they are really dangerous. This one is an accidental one." Arsene Wenger So there you go, even Sol and Wenger admit he elbowed him. It's a tough break that he got the red card. Based on the initial media reporting (who are supposed to be as unbiased as the FA, *cough*cough*) of the incident, it will be an uphill battle for Sol.
What the hell is this? Now not only the MUFC players are starting to take after that unendurable martinet Ferguson but the fans as well?!? Mind games and cheap tricks are lost on us, go back to your own forum. -- I'm sure in reviewing the video Halsey will realize his mistake but that hardly matters. It would be admitting that he was wrong and very few people are big enough to do that, particularly football referees. There was clearly no malicious intent and Solskjaer really made fools of the officials. It hardly mattered when it happened last night, too late to be a factor, it's the looming suspension that really grates.
Sol is being punished for his height! If Ole was closer in height to Campbell then Sol's arm hits him in the chest and likely is never called. However, because of the difference in height, Ole gets Sol's arm in the face and so it becomes an issue! I do hope that upon review, Halsey changes his mind about the "intent" and reduces the foul to a yellow card or regular non-card foul.
Thank you for the concise explanation. Maybe the manure supporters can even understand this. You think even a foul would've been called if Sulzeer was 5-10 instead of 6-2?
What if he was 8-7 and he got hit in the crotch? Come on now, this has to be one of the silliest excuses I've ever heard!
no matter a person's height.. YOU are still responsible for your elbows.. regardless... justified red IMO.. .gunna be tough row to hoe now...
this was a very odd play, in my opinion. although the angle from above seemed to suggest that it was more contact to Ole's chest, the camera angle that was closest to the AR's view showed a solid elbow to the face. even if it was somewhere in between, i could certainly understand the AR calling it the way he did given what he was seeing from that angle. the one thing that looked very odd to me in watching the replay a few times was that a stride or two before the elbow contact, Campbell made this sweeping backward movement with his arm and elbow. it didn't hit anyone, since Ole wasn't there yet. but it was almost identical to the movement that did connect with Ole a stride or two later. thinking about it as a referee, i couldn't decide whether it helped his cause or not. on the one hand, this might just be a normal (albeit somewhat odd) movement that he makes while running, thus meaning that he had no intent. on the other hand, maybe he was somewhat unnecessarily waving his arm to keep off challenges from behind, which, even if he didn't see Ole, he should have known was coming. anyway, it was interesting to note the similarity in that earlier movement to the subsequent contact that resulted in the red card.
maybe he missed him the first time, or tried to itimidate him and that didn't work, so he hit him. in either case, as I said it looked like he wasn't doing it for balance.
bottom line is this: solskjaer is a cheating ass. Talk about making the most of a slap by rolling around.
I've seen the extra swing of the arm mentioned in a few articles, as well as the tape of the game and it looks like we was swinging the arm to ward off Ole, Ole to his credit kept closing and the second swing of the arm caught him. Here's an excerpt of a piece from Football365.com:
Preach it dawg. That little prat ever comes within striking distance of me and he'll get a blow "much" lower than Sol's. And this one will have malicious intent!! Campbell deserved a yellow for careless and/or reckless limb control (or some variant thereof) ,but not a straight red. The thing we should really be asking ourselves is how did Solskjaer escape a caution for playacting and diving?