Antoine Hoppenot

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by usry723, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, this guy is absolutely electric off the bench. Does anyone know if he's a US Citizen?
     
  2. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    If you believe wiki, it will take you about 15 seconds to find out.
     
  3. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the question still remains...
     
  4. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    I guess, although I found on two separate wiki pages that said he was an American citizen. His page and the Union page:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Philadelphia_Union_season

     
  5. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's really good off the bench. I like the kid but USMNT. I don't know about that yet.
     
  6. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Camp Cupcake candidate for sure. We need speed.
     
  7. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    I like that he is always attacking the goal. When in front of goal he is looking to shoot, but in a smart way. Turns, chips, offspeed, power. Whatever the situation calls for.

    Over 90 minutes, against better competition, he is probably not nearly as impressive, but I like the confidence.
     
  8. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wish he was younger.
     
  9. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. PhillyandBCEagles

    Jul 9, 2012
    NC
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Reminds me a lot of a young Josh Wolff
     
  12. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Speed kills. And this guys got it along with technical qualities and apparently can finish! I like him hope he can keep improving. Him and Jack Mac for camp cupcake!
     
  13. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He said he prefers coming in with 20-30 mins left in the game that way he can run like crazy and not have to worry about conserving energy. Wouldn't mind seeing him on the USMNT as a super sub.
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's 21 already? I assumed he was like 17-18...
     
  15. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thus the dilemma of the college game in the landscape of us soccer.
     
  16. NatsTeamFan

    NatsTeamFan Member

    May 9, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    I assume he was just one of those guys that slipped through the cracks. The good news is, he didn't stay all four years, and he still has plenty of time to make a solid career.
     
  17. ScrappytheSeal4

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a modern miracle that he escaped with any soccer ability at all.
    of course that was sarcasm!
     
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  18. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't mean it like that. There is some experience to be gained. But starting your pro career at 21-22 is just putting you behind all your peers and competition on all fronts.
     
  19. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree.
     
  20. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    I disagree. Our college players arrive both mentally and physically more prepared to play. They also have longer careers as they were not playing under professional systems from the age of 15-16.

    Jozy probably would be a far better player today and more prepared to excel at a bigger club if he had taken a year or two to grow mentally and learn some basic conditioning in College. Add Freddy Adu to that list. Zizzo as well. Any number of our young professionals. Conversely look at Brian McBride or Lichaj or Dempsey. Even one or two years in college can make a positive contribution to a player.

    Of course much of this comes down to an individual level. Michael Bradley for example is doing well. Just saying, I don't knee jerk to think college is bad for our players just because it is different from other systems.
     
  21. ScrappytheSeal4

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It clearly doesn't. Exhibit A) Hoppenot is doing just fine at the moment.

    Some people aren't ready to play soccer professionally at the age of 18. That doesn't mean they won't be excellent players in the future. Dempsey went to college. He even played in the MLS. And yet he's done pretty well.
     
  22. chalaron

    chalaron Member+

    Aug 15, 2006
    Baton Rouge, Louisia
    conditioning isn't taught at a professional club? Seriously, if any pro club isn't teaching their players how to be better conditioned, they are not going to be in business long.
    I don't think the college route is a death knell like some others, but it's not ideal. Players may have longer careers as a result, but I'd argue their peak years are worse than someone growing up in a pro system. Guess there's no real way to determine which of us is correct though. Such is life.
     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. FakeFlopper

    FakeFlopper Member

    Jul 21, 2005
    Austin, Tx
    After seeing a few of his last games, he's not ready for the USMNT. I like the confidence and speed, but everything else is not in the right place. He kind of reminds me of Chris Rolfe, but I think Rolfe was better his first two years, and if Rolfe wasn't considered ready, this kid sure isn't ready now.
     
  25. NatsTeamFan

    NatsTeamFan Member

    May 9, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Well the fact that he is still only 21, and that he doesn't turn 22 until November. If what you are saying is true, I guess he had to enter college around 16 or 17. Either way, my point stands, turning pro at 20-21 isn't the worse of options.
     

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