another study finds conservative media bias

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  1. ElNaranja

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    A little late to the party
     
  2. superdave

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    John Malone is now running CNN. He's a Trump donor. His strategy for the company is to listen to GOP criticisms of CNN and appease them. Recently it was Brian Stelter. Now it's John Harwood. GOPers are cheering their successes, of quashing voices that call bullshit on their bullshit.

    This strikes me as numbskullery of the highest order, even in terms of amoral capitalism. CNN can NEVER match Fox's ability to pump that pure bullshit heroin directly into the veins of wingnuts. CNN's audience should be the middle, whatever the hell that means nowadays. Being the #2 right wing channel isn't going to help their ratings...how could it? They'll just lose what they have and gain nothing.

    I would add that if Dems over the last 2 decades had realized that the GOPs were playing a game of work the refs while they weren't, and reacted in kind, Malone might look at CNN as "calling it straight." He might not be working to change the company.

    But if you're a dumbass (and I would argue that in terms of street smarts, his misunderstanding of the mismatch between his goal for CNN and what's realistic marks him as a total dumbass), and you only hear one party complaining, you'll think CNN is biased. To me, the Republicans are moving more and more towards nihilism, and everything they do must be interpreted through that lens.
     
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    Notice how quick the TP was embraced by the unbiased MSM:

     
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    Veteran of cable news explains rightward shift of CNN. Cord cutters are younger so the 50+ crowd who dont cut as much is the demo cable news woos. And I'm guessing data shows they skew conservative.

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    That was OK I guess.

    Did she ask about the bailout of 666 & the $2 billion?
     
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    The Atlantic, ladies and gentlemen!

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    Biden made a speech with 2 marines.
    2
    Only 2
    Both of them in the background.
    Both
    Just the 2.
    A pair.

    Trump?
    [​IMG]

    This is what he needed to cross the street.
     
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    This is why I have long scoffed at the idea (still heard on here) that the likes of CNN and the mainstream media are liberal leaning, when they are actually centrist.

    Everything is driven by demos

    One reason your average trumper rages at the MSM is they are much more conservative than the average american.
     
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    Up is down in WSJ:

     
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    There was a tweet or video or something a few weeks ago (was it that recent? time...) which talked about somebody's political views and how they have remained steady over time, like the last 20 years or so. It was a bit off because he generalized for himself, but the basic point was that his beliefs had been considered somewhat liberal a couple decades ago, but because of the shift of the Republican party, his views were now radical. Because the right has gone so far right. And this is a problem because what is deemed a moderate today would be called conservative, or even radical right, a couple of decades ago.

    Of course, that was linear, and we all know that political beliefs are not really linear.
     
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    NO. ********ING. WORD!

     
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    “Issues with optics”

     
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  17. superdave

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    She literally says “not comparing those two.”
     
  18. Cris 09

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    And then compared the two.

    Almost like a racist person 'bout to start a racist comment by;
    1. First, quickly looking around the room.
    2. Then saying, "You know I'm not racist but..."
     
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  19. JohnR

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    Never mind that. Trump isn't ant-fascist even by that definition. He browbeat and ordered about CEOs. He demanded that Apple give the FBI its phone codes. He instituted tariff after tariff.

    But that's the modern GOP -- the willingness to pledge deep allegiance to a man who tosses the party's alleged principles on a bonfire and burns them enthusiastically. As if they do not realize what Trump did, and/or what they profess to believe.
     
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    It turns out conservatives don't like big business as the management is too woke
     
  21. superdave

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    I've been beating y'all's brains in to read Nixonland for many, many reasons, one of which it puts front and center the racism that allowed LBJ to get 60% of the vote in 1964, then add millions of Democratic votes in the form of black Southerners, and then see Nixon get 60% of the vote in 1972. And then throw in being a North Carolinian and knowing more about Jesse Helms than probably anyone here. So I've not been shy about pointing out that the MSM and mainstream politicians have been wildly underestimating the importance of racism and the relative unimportance of traditional conservativism in the GOP coalition from 1970 through 2016.

    Over the Trump Error, from time to time I've posted about conservative mea culpae who realized all their wonk work was meaningless. Avik Roy, Stuart Stephens, etc.

    But even *I* didn't think the racism portion was this strong and the trad con so weak.

    Here's my point...the word "alleged" is doing every iota of the work in your post.
     
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  22. JohnR

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    I was going to write that conservatives are enthusiastic about tax cuts, but since they oppose student-loan forgiveness, which is a form of tax cut, that is not correct. So we're down to pretty much down to union busting and opposing environmental policies as core conservative economic principles.
     
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  23. Q*bert Jones III

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    I'll make a counter-argument:

    Republicans despise whatever the libtards like. Libtards like the blacks. Therefore Republicans hate the blacks.

    They'll accept a black if he hates the libtards, but they'd never accept a racist libtard.

    Checkmate.
     
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  24. JohnR

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    Is is true that Donald Trump recorded the highest-ever approval ratings for a Republican President, among fellow Republicans, solely and completely because he hates Democrats more than any other Republican President ever has. Although I don't think it's so much of a counterargument as it is a supporting argument.
     
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