another study finds conservative media bias

We all saw thru Newsom. He's good at trolling Trump, but courting Kirk means he's worthless.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/10/kamala-harris-book-excerpt-joe-biden-2024-election-00555057

And this:

And how does the staff feel?

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/11/biden-harris-new-book-uproar

 

He should never have chosen her as his running mate.

If he declares intention to get out after one term, a la LBJ, she gets primaried in 2024. If he stays and doesn't stumble thru a debate, and somehow wins last year, she gets primaried in 2028. I don't recall the last time a sitting Veep didn't win the nom, and neither do the Black folks who would have abandoned the Democrats when that happened.

America was not ready for HRC and is not ready for Harris. Biden should have chosen a garden variety limited White boy to succeed him. If she's angry that America wasn't ready for her, that's completely understandable, as is the loss of Black votes to the Dem party for caving on POCs.

Now here's the kicker: Can the Dems win on the backs of White liberal males and a smattering of POCs and women? Because if selecting the best qualified candidate is not an option when said candidate is a Black woman, you lose my vote.

 

My take is that after Biden went around claiming he would have won if he had stayed in the race, then he and his team deserve all the shit coming their way.

 

I'll buy that.

 

That would be Mike Pence. Before that, Joe Biden. Before that Dan Quayle. Before that Nelson Rockerfella. Then Alben Barkley. So of those who were not following a term-limited President (de facto or de jure,) Biden and Berkley...

 

I'll say what I said from the beginning - he should have resigned with a year to go to allow Kamala to become the first female president and to help people get used to the concept prior to the election. It would have also given Kamala a chance to distance herself from some of Biden's policies if she didn't like them and we would have avoided the entire cluster******** that happened.

Alben Barkley comes to mind from the 1950s. You also have lots of VPs since who tried one way or another but didn't succeed, as taosjohn highlights.

 

I don't disagree.
She would have been ridiculed for not being elected, and she would have lost in 2024. I'm not in favor of that as the example of the first female POTUS.

Tough room!

Kamala is being compared in my post to the White male Veeps who actually ran to succeed their former boss and were primaried. That seemed fairly clear to me. There's no good reason for me to have made the post otherwise. Barkley is the most recent of those.

 

Biden ran against HRC and did not win. Gore did run, won the nom, and lost by an eyelash to W.

And when it is really only possible every 8 years or so, it is hard to say there is any pattern. It doesn't take a lot of one term Presidents to mess the whole sequence up-- Carter, HW, Trump...

 

Biden ran in 2015/2016?

 

He sought the nomination, yes.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/joe-biden-not-running-2016-election

are you not confusing 2008 with 2016?

 

I don't think so-- my memory is that the Biden folks tested the waters, found them tepid, and then he decided to focus on Beau. But maybe that's a Mandela effect?

 

He never officially announced he was seeking the presidency in 2015. He did officially announce he wouldn’t.

It was HRC v Bernie the whole time.

 

That was 2008. Not 2016.

If Biden decided to run in 2016, it would never have been clear so early on when he bowed out that he couldn’t win.

 

Biden wasn't interested in 2016. Loss of a child will do that to you.

Told it before but I was the one who told my grandmother, my mom's mom the news about my mom passing. That is a conversation that won't leave my mind no matter what. I don't blame him for deciding to sit out 2016.

As for the rehashing, it's hard to tell. Too many people panicked after the first debate. But who knows. Biden's 1-0 against Trump and he's never lost a reelection bid in his time as Senator. Other factors as well. There's some who deserve blame, but it isn't Biden. Nor Harris. Although I think Harris shouldn't have had Obama people on her campaign.

 

A pox on both their houses.

 

Agree on the Obama people, starting with Plouffe…. They sank her campaign.

 

Anyhoo...Jimmy Kimmel canceled for some pretty tame criticism of Trumplicans politicizing the background of the Chuckie shooter

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/17/charlie-kirk-jimmy-kimmel-abc-disney.html