Another New League (Cricket)

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by BhoysFC1995, Jun 7, 2004.

  1. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    no joke-

    Pro Cricket in USA starts June 18th

    the teams are (try not to laugh at some of them):
    NY Storm
    Jersey Fire
    DC Forward
    Florida Thunder
    Chicago Tornadoes
    SF Freedom
    LA Unity
    Texas Arrow Heads

    the leagues website is- http://www.procricket.com/ there is mention of a 'media partner' with a tv contract, but nothing mentioned of who. Foxsportsworld??

    as for the NY team, its pretty silly to have them play in Staten Island, as its really hard for people to travel to. it would have been much more reasonable (attendance wise at least) to have them play in Queens or Brooklyn.
     
  2. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn. No team for Raleigh-Durham ;)

    Don't know a lot about cricket but I'm wondering if they are "Americanizing" the game in any way to try to appeal to American fans and American TV (like MLS did in their early days) or are they sticking to the traditional game. I've got to expect that there is a decent niche market in America for a Cricket league in America.
     
  3. Olesh

    Olesh Member

    Jul 24, 1999
    South Bay
    Alright, I wrote a much longer reply but it got erased, but here goes:

    Initially, Staten Island didn't sound like such a bad idea because of the massive South Indian population in Central New Jersey, specifically Middlesex County, which is just across the Outerbridge Crossing, about 20 minutes away. But then, when I looked again, the New Jersey team is playing in Central New Jersey, about 20 minutes west of the particularly large enclave. I know there are a lot of people of Indian and Pakistani descent in that area, but I seriously doubt there are enough to support TWO professional cricket teams.

    Plus, they plan on playing in minor-league baseball stadia, which although its peanuts compared to Giants Stadium rent, still involves a non-trivial rental cost that has to get covered somehow. The outdoor lacrosse league used this same model, with modest expectations, yet still has not been successful in some markets averaging about 2,000 people in a 5,000 seat park. I don't know if cricket can reasonably expect to draw much more on a regular basis.

    Based on the NY/NJ franchise locations, you have to wonder about the wisdom of the forefathers. I agree that surely either having the NY team in Brooklyn/Queens or the NJ team in Hudson County would have made a lot more sense. Instead you're essentially putting two teams in roughly the same sub-market .

    As for TV partners, I'm not so sure about FSW. I don't think there are any exclusively South Asian networks based in the US, but if there are, that would be a distinct possibility. The other "outside the box" theory I had about media partnership would be something like AVS. AVS is a prominent Independent Indian-American News program that buys time on UHF stations. Maybe the league would partner with an entity like that and get discounted blocks of time on these small over-the-air stations. Just a thought.

    I don't see this having much chance of lasting though, even if the South Asian and West Indian populations come out and support it (which I doubt). Besides, what can they possibly be thinking with the travel costs?
     
  4. Jabinho

    Jabinho New Member

    May 29, 2004
    Yes.. Instead of 11 per side there will be nine and the field will be shaped like a diamond and there willl be 3 outs per inning and the bat will be rounded .... :p
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The local cricket club shot themselves in the proverbial foot. They had it lined up to buy a farm off of I-85 north of the triangle to put a full-sized oval on. The local jurisdiction was going to pitch in a grant, but the cricket club forgot to register themselves as a non-profit organization....

    It looks like they're going to be the 20/20 Cricket league we were discussing earlier this year:
    http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s119.php?f=118&i=123971&t=123971
    I know there's a thread here on BigSoccer somewhere. The procricket website doesn't list any rules, but it seems to match up with the post I've linked.

    20/20 cricket has some pretty vehement detractors, but then again so does sliced bread.

    I see tickets for the first DC match are $4.95.
     
  6. djwalker

    djwalker BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 13, 2000
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm glad they obviously went to MLS for marketing ideas. NY Storm . . . that's brilliant.
     
  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Maybe we can direct all the jacknuts from the MLS forum that keep coming up with new names and team logos for MLS teams to www.BigCricket.com

    Afterall, it's not too late!
     
  8. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't comment on the NY location, but putting the NJ team in Bridgewater (Commerce Bank Ballpark) is a good idea. The closer they are to Edison/Woodbridge/Piscataway the better for them. Trust me. Plus it's 10 minutes from my house, maybe I'll go see a game.
     
  9. Olesh

    Olesh Member

    Jul 24, 1999
    South Bay
    I agree with this. My only question is whether they're overestimating the Central Jersey market with essentially TWO teams. I could see them putting a team in Bridgewater OR Staten Island to court the Middlesex County crowd, but not in both. My point was that if they wanted a team in Bridgewater, they should have put the NY team in Brooklyn/Queens/LI, and if they wanted Staten Island, they should have put the NJ team in the Hudson County area or even Trenton, there just seems like too much market overlap for too niche a sport.

    Does it bother anybody else that the season is set to start in about a week and they have no players assigned to teams?
     
  10. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't it take 3 days to complete a cricket ... what is it, a match? a test? I have no idea. The one dude I know here from Trinidad and Tobago told me the only reason to go to a cricket thing is to smoke pot and sit in the sun for three days. Sounds like a decent way to spend three days.
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  12. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    the website is still very much under construction. they have the teams jerseys for viewing, but not for sale. when i checked, each team did have assigned players.

    as for the format, it will be played 'Twenty20'. this version is similar to the time length of a baseball game. each team bats only once, receiving 20 Overs bowled to them (6 bowls/pitches = an over, so its 120 bowls), unless theres only one batter left on the team.

    ODI's, One Day Internationals (the world cup plays this format), are the same but the difference is 50 overs.

    then theres Tests matches, which are unlimited overs, and played over 4 or five days depending on the format.

    Twenty20 is fairly new to the cricket world. it started in England last year, and now this year also played in South African. in both places it is very popular, drawing large crowds.

    a main difference between limited overs compared Tests in batting is that there is much more of an urgency to score runs quicker (hitting sixes and fours) due to the limit of overs.

    [shameless plug] oh, btw, there happens to be a great cricket forum here at bigsoccer, located HERE [/plug]
     
  13. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Why is the Florida team playing in Homestead. There is a large Carribean population in the region, but its much farther North, like North Miami Beach and Ft. Lauderdale. Homestead is about as far South as you can get in Miami without hitting the keys. Its a good 45 min to an hour from where the island folks live. Unless....do Cubans play cricket??
     
  14. Laggard

    Laggard New Member

    May 23, 2001
    Beeswax Noneofyour
    The need to have names for every single team seems to be a truly American thing. Am I wrong?
     
  15. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Move San Francisco!


    Oh, come one. SOMEBODY had to do it.
     
  16. djwalker

    djwalker BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 13, 2000
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cricket has arrived!
     
  17. Fleetwood Mac #1

    Fleetwood Mac #1 New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Queens, NY
    Actually, "coming soon".

    Less than a week to go and still very little info available. This is not looking good at all.
     
  18. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I chuckled at the "Home Ground" section on the San Francisco Freedom's page. It reads:

    HOME GROUND

    Kezar Stadium

    Kezar Stadium was demolished in 1989...
     
  19. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    Indians get set for US Pro Cricket

    well, that article talks about the influx of players from india, and how they will not be bound by contracts. looks like they are taking baby steps (emphasis on baby) with this venture.
     
  20. emaddy

    emaddy New Member

    Re: Another New League (Cricket) -- San Francisco


    Kezar Stadium still exists, albeit not as old-time 49er fans would remember it. It is the main football field for the San Francisco high schools -- probably seats 5-7 thousand as it currently stands (as opposed to 59,000+ during its NFL days).

    There's a photo at http://www.mistersf.com/high/index.html?highggpkeza.htm that shows it as it currently looks.
     
  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Another New League (Cricket) -- San Francisco

    I know it exists. I was there just three weeks ago. I was commenting on the humor of the fact that the only information given on the team page was that their home stadium was demolished. Those who follow the link can get the full info on the stadium.
     
  22. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the San Francisco Freedom page:


    What a nice, though likely unintended, tribute to the pro soccer team housed about 50 miles south of them. :D


    -G
     
  23. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Box office manager: I knew we should have gotten more ********ing nickles at the bank friday
     
  24. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Actually, there are some rather silly names for the one day cricket counties over here. Hate to say, Sussex Sharks are the prime example. Proper County cricket, still wear whites and no silly names. I can't imagine the outfits the American clubs will have on. (Sidenote, remember when they used to make the indoor lacrosse teams wear hockey jerseys and spandex. Guys would come straight from Hopkins and Princeton and jump into Richard Simmons' rollerblading costume)

    And of course, 20/20 is a travesty. It's not cricket without a tea interval for the players and enough time for 600 beers for the spectators.
     

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