Another cabinet member withdraws

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by steve-o, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. steve-o

    steve-o New Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123447333424979131.html?mod=djemalertNEWS

     
  2. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
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    That's on him. It's not as if Obama's views on stimulus were some great secret when he agreed to take the job. And, it's not Obama's job to reach an accord on disagreements with Gregg. He was picked to work for the president and carry out his policies. If he's not up to it then don't let the door hit you.
     
  3. Claymore

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    Doesn't smell right. I bet they found something in the vetting process. That, or the GOP was going to rain holy hell on him during confirmation hearings.

    Oh well, so much for bipartisanship. At least now Obama can say "hey I tried".
     
  4. Kobranzilla

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    what a tool
     
  5. Knave

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    Do we really need a commerce secretary?
     
  6. profiled

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    It's on him because Obama nomitated someone who couldn't agree with his policies?

    Jesus ********ing Spin.
     
  7. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

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    It's not like he was sitting at his desk and someone came in and said, "guess what? Obama just nominated you for commerce!"

    There are serious talks and vetting that occur before the pick is announced. There is down right negotiation -- See Hillary Clinton.

    My point is that that is the period where you meet with the president's people and talk about the job and what is expected and what the President sees the position to be. If you don't want to do his bidding at that point, swell. Thanks for listening.

    If you go through that process, agree to be the commerce secretary designate and then later say, that you have "irresolvable conflicts" with the president's policies and specifically cite the stimulus, then yea -- it's on him. I don't see how that is spin.

    If anything, it seems to me that Gregg's republican buddies got to him and battered him with the talking points and told him he wouldn't be allowed to play in any reind . . . . I mean GOP games.
     
  8. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
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    Basically, he or she is like the head of the local chamber of commerce. It is his or her job to go out to the world and sell American business. Is it critical? Probably not. Is it a good thing to have? I think so. Unfortunately, I think Richardson with his personality and diplomatic experience would have been great for the job.

    Now, I guess we are left with Bill Ayers.
     
  9. profiled

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    How do you nominate someone you obviously don't have a clue what he feels/thinks on something, unless you really didn't want him to be involved, and you were "pretending".
     
  10. Crimen y Castigo

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  11. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

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    Matt Drudge is clear =>

    "OBAMA BURNED: GREGG WITHDRAWS AFTER POLICIES TOO MUCH TO STOMACH"

    Gregg took lots of heat for joining the administration but I am sure Obama's census hijack and his stimulus waste was just way too much for a New Hampshire Republican. Luckily he is still a Senator... Good!

    Commerce seems to be a tough department for Obama; who knew!
     
  12. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

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    No.

    Chris M. said it's like the local chambers of commerce, but there's one key difference. Those are private organizations, not part of the town/state government.

    Just dissolve the stupid thing. If there truly is a critical function it does, then move it to some other department.

    The republic would survive.
     
  13. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
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    fyp.

    Semper High!
     
  14. dogface

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    Huh.

     
  15. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

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    He didn't have any big problems two weeks ago when he was begging for the job. Or a couple of days ago when he accepted.

    This withdrawal is, like someone already said is vetting, or threats by Boner and the Republican gang to rain holy hell on him if he didn't recant. Nice group of fellas those remaining Republicans.
     
  16. steve-o

    steve-o New Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    It had nothing to do with Obama's policies, and everything to do with the stimulus. Maybe.
     
  17. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

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    Bullshit. He lobbied for the position and he accepted the nomination on February 2, 2009. 10 days ago. Tell me how the stimulus or Obama's view on the stimulus has radically changed in 10 days.
     
  18. IntheNet

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    Chris completely wrong again; how unique!

    Sen. Gregg Statement on Withdrawing as Commerce Secretary Nominee
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...ement-withdrawing-commerce-secretary-nominee/
    "Sen. Gregg stated, "I want to thank the President for nominating me to serve in his Cabinet as Secretary of Commerce. This was a great honor, and I had felt that I could bring some views and ideas that would assist him in governing during this difficult time. I especially admire his willingness to reach across the aisle.

    However, it has become apparent during this process that this will not work for me as I have found that on issues such as the stimulus package and the Census there are irresolvable conflicts for me. Prior to accepting this post, we had discussed these and other potential differences, but unfortunately we did not adequately focus on these concerns. We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy."
     
  19. steve-o

    steve-o New Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Then tell me how Obama's view on anything has changed in the past 10 days? The orig. article said the stimulus was the reason, that's the only major event that has happened in the past 10 days; other than the bank bailout plan.

    It seems to me that the GOP are distancing themselves from Obama, expecting this thing to unravel. So if it does, they can play, the "I told you so" game.
     
  20. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
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    How am I wrong? Obama's position on stimulus is the same now as it was a month ago. This guy knew that and wanted to be commerce secretary. You can have him back.
     
  21. Deep Wilcox

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    From a White House press release:

    “Senator Gregg reached out to the President and offered his name for Secretary of Commerce. He was very clear throughout the interviewing process that despite past disagreements about policies, he would support, embrace, and move forward with the President’s agenda. Once it became clear after his nomination that Senator Gregg was not going to be supporting some of President Obama’s key economic priorities, it became necessary for Senator Gregg and the Obama administration to part ways. We regret that he has had a change of heart”.

    So now that its confirmed that he wanted the job, I really think Boner and the gang must have gotten to him. Gregg is a Republican, so they probably have pictures of him with underaged male prostitutes, or siphoning off money from the 9-11 Widows and Orphans Fund, or some such activity. Boner probably threatened to 'out' him if he didn't recant.
     
  22. steve-o

    steve-o New Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Two quotes from each side saying two separate things. Who is telling the truth?
     
  23. superdave

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  24. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

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    Well, yesterday Gregg was gonna be Commerce Secretary, so he is the one changing his story.
     
  25. ElJefe

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    They managed to run off all their reasonable members, or "RINOs" as they called them, and now we're left with just the pissants.
     

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