Another anti-Semite

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by quicksand, Nov 12, 2003.

  1. quicksand

    quicksand Member

    May 7, 2000
    Brooklyn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Indeed............


    What a fudge-packer old person...
    I just read reports in the media about it and im furious...

    what i am more furious about is that Greece as rejected that Theodorakis comments were anti-jewish and explained that everyone has a right to express themselves in any form or manner yet.... i belive 2 people on Greek TV lately were fined and perhaps my go to jail for having a homosexual kiss on TV.......

    How odd........GREECE!!

    BOYCOTT THE 2004 OLYMPICS!!!!!!!!!!!

    GREECE HAS TURNED OUT FROM A HELLENIC DEMOCRATIC STATE TO A SOCIALIST/FACIST, NAIZ LOVING, BITING STATE!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
     
  3. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel

    Ooo yes yes yes........

    Israel and Turkey relations have flourished very well over the past decade if not...50 years.

    Israel and Turkey continue to have military cooperations and along with the U.S have air, naval and ground activity to learn each others tactics and goals.

    Israel & Greece on the other hand hasn't had much success. Greece has always been bitter with the jewish people and the jewish state.

    if i was to choose one church other than the catholic church that was against jews, it would be probably the Greek Orthadox church...and i think the Syrian Orthadox are little compassionate then the Greeks are.

    The Greeks recognized the PLO before they recognized israel and there was reports of Pogroms against jews that occured after WW2.

    Life for Greek jews was harsh and is still is.

    Tukey on the other hand was a very friendly country to the jewish people. The founder of modern turkey, Mustafa Kemal was a friend of the jewish people and before the ottaman braked up, he always praised Jewish people who were very loyal to turkey unlike the british who were fighting them heavily and taking lands as a result to WW1 and the Arabs who were revolting against Turkey and assisting the British and French, to only backstab them later on.

    Turkey is very open Islamic State and i think the connection with israel is good. I understand there connection with the arab world, and Palestinians and i think that they are one of the more balanced states out there........
     
  4. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Zorba on America:

    "I see Bush standing shoulder to shoulder with Genghis Khan, Attila and Hitler.

    I view Americans responsible as detestable, ruthless, cowardly murderers of entire peoples.

    From this moment on and forever after I will view as my enemy anyone who has anything to do with these barbarians for any reason.

    The hatred of simple people from the entire world must rise like a great wave to drown them in shame.
    "
     
  5. Turkoglu

    Turkoglu Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Istanbul
    Friendship between the Israelis and the Turks are well known and it is nothing new. But most of the people on this board don't even know where Israel plays its home national soccer games:)
     
  6. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    And where i go sometimes on wonderful weekend trips....

    Greece has never been a freind of the jews, and much of the jewish people in Turkey either fear for there safety or they want to leave..

    Turkey on the other hand, helped jewish people twice....once in the 1492 Jewish Expulsion of Spain where jews fled to places in the ottaman empire (bosnia, bulgaria, Turkey, Greece, etc...) and the other was in WW2..

    :) Yaaaaaaaaaaaay for theTURKIA!!
     
  7. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    You do realize how diametrically opposed socialism and fascism are right? And watch out with generalisations, it's only one Greek Idiot, and you call the entire country a Nazi loving state?
     
  8. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    Well armenians and kurds have a different point of view.
     
  9. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    This is awesome. Way to respond to a racist remark by using not one, but two bigtoed retorts of your own! Woo hoo!


    Tool. Why not just call him a nigger?
     
  10. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Even worse, he doesn't support the Palestinian cause. You can't get more bigoted than that!
     
  11. gantelo

    gantelo New Member

    Aug 9, 2003
    Istanbul
    Yeah we have a different point of view, too.
    The difference is Jews have their own government and land and they are rich so they dont demand anything from Turkey. On the other hand, Kurds are trying to occupy the south eastern of Turkey and build an independent country. It is like Turks living in Germany trying to have their own land and live with those rules. I dont care as a Turk that the Kurds never had their own lands before. And I know many Kurds who dont care as well. The only thing I care is to live in peace.
    Now the world declares a war against terrorism when it is finally against Americans. Before this incident, there had been many other incidents in Istanbul and in some of them, more than 20 people died.
    My point is, you cannot decide what is terror or not with your own judgement. If innocent people die, it is TERROR. And no reason can change that. In the previous terrorist attacks in Turkey, I didnt see CNN or Fox News or BBC coming here having live interviews for hours.
    Jews and us can understand each other. those things literally happen in our neighborhood, in our streets.
    When was the last time a bomb exploded 1 km away from you. before you say anything about Turks, please remember this fact. we dont watch terror in our TVs. We live it.
     
  12. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    Maybe Kurds are trying to build an independent state but it's weird to say they're trying to occupy their own land.

    Before talking about not knowing what terrorism is you should read something about Red Brigades, bombs (bologna, railway station 80 dead) and other stuff in the 70's, early 80's.

    btw I simply told that Armenians (forgot about that one?) and Kurds don't share the same opinion of Kappa18 (the racist antiracist) about Turkey.

    Just another example of how things are often subjective.

    I still can't understand ppl gloryfing the notion of jewish ppl having their own state (good) and at the same time denying the same right to others (chechens, kurds, palestinians).
    Maybe it's me that I'm illogical.
     
  13. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I agree with you about the Kurds who have their own language and a distinct identity for eons. Now would be a good (and easy) time to come up with a solution.

    Ok, I guess you could say the same for the Chechens. But if you include Palestinians, don't forget Wyomingites either.
     
  14. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel

    Im not generalizing on him. The whole greek society..the media in greece that portrays jews in a bad way.... Its not one person who i said it...its a nation that lives in ignorance, if it is for a few, is the few who resist the hate and show of sign of friendlyness and support for all peoples...

    Ever seen a black man in Greece? Wanna know how Black Americans are treated in Greek Basketball.....If i was black, i would have been spat soo many times......called a n-igger and then a bush lover... like..make up your minds!!!! :D
     
  15. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Kurds and Armenians hate one another...

    I heard there were bandits of Kurds stealing villages in Armenia..

    Sides...
    Armenia in the USSR, was known as the Anti-Semetic part of the country! ;)
     
  16. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel

    He is a fudge-packer :)

    s
     
  17. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Yes we do!!
    We actually have alot of footage and newsreal of things that occur in Turkey like suicide bombings. I remember, once when a Women Suicide bomber of kurd decent entered a cafe a blew herself up..it was breaking news in Israel..

    Either way, We and the turks face the same kinda problesms..

    other than that.....

    This is not the 1st time that it happened in the syangogue....also in 1986 20 people in that synagogue got killed and in 1992, Hezbollah (leb-syr-iran) attacked it.....no one was killed in that incident!
     
  18. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel

    The kurds actually had a land and had an authority until they devided the land up.

    The Chechens on the other hand, are or part of the whole Soviet thing...Everyone in the USSR when seperated had a land somehow...

    and the Palestinians only came to effect after Israel's war...no one ever claimed they were palestinian or identified them as....They were either Christian, Jewish, Arab, Druze, Muslim or others...but palestinians??? It was only came into text at '64....

    Infact, the former Arafat of them all, the Mufti From Jerusaelm, even declared himself a syrian nationalist....rather than palestinian...and he was one hell of an anti-semite!
     
  19. gantelo

    gantelo New Member

    Aug 9, 2003
    Istanbul
    well, I know about the red brigades and the bombs and the assasins but we are not living in the 70`s or 80`s. And as I said I dont care if the kurds have their own state in the Northern Iraq. I know, the politicians and the military says we will be threatened if they have their own state but I dont think so. As far as they stay in the Northern Iraq, it is fine with me.
    And really I forgot about the Armenians. I dont know much about what happened to them but they were told to leave the Ottoman Empire in the WW1 ( it would take too much time to write the reasons). But as far as I know it was not based on racism like the holocaust. Because the Kurds stayed and the Jews stayed and some others are still here. But they want us to admit that we committed the crime of genocide and ask a huge amount of money for the damages. The first part is fine but the second part, paying money is not acceptable. Turkish Republic can`t be responsible for what happened 100 years ago which is not clear like the holocaust. Some say actually the Kurds living there did this, some say it never happened and some people say the military did it.
     

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