And the winner is...Blu-Ray

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Magpie Maniac, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
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    Newcastle United FC
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    United States
    The HD war is over. Sony wins.

     
  2. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Is Blu-Ray technology really better? If so, how does this affect me the consumer?

    Because all I know right now is, Blu-Ray costs more.
     
  3. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ********. My HD-DVD drive for my Xbox360 is now an obsolete piece of junk that I have to keep around to play the whopping nine movies I have in that format.

    I gambled on the wrong horse.
     
  4. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I've got the Toshiba Ad3 and 10 DVDs.
     
  5. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
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    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BBC coverage of the battle

    It doesn't sound like there is a big difference between the two and costs should come down as all manufacturers enter the Blu-Ray arena.


    Of course, a year from now I'll be one of those folks wondering why my TV is just showing white noise. :)
     
  6. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've got the basically the same thing... but it does do a great job of upconverting my regular DVD collection. I can afford to wait until the Blu-Ray prices come down before switching to that, and then I can move the HD-DVD player to one of the other rooms in the house....

    Hopefully in the short term prices for HD-DVD movies get slashed significantly...
     
  7. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Enjoy those nine movies. ;)

    My PS3 just appreciated.
     
  8. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I expect we'll see that, but I'm reluctant to spend any significant amount of money for media in a dead format; if my player dies, my media collection is junk. $5 bargain bin deals, I can see, but I'm not about to drop $55 on Planet Earth.

    So now I'm pretty much going to have to get a Blu-Ray player at some point. Problem is, right now they're all so expensive I might as well get a PS3, as it's only marginally more expensive but with tremendous additional capability.

    I'm not a happy camper. I really thought HD-DVD was going to win, mostly because of the brilliant name. It's idiot-proof marketing. 'Blu-Ray' is about the most idiotic name I can think of for a DVD format that supports high definition.
     
  9. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry about your trouble. Seriously. :) I was hoping that Sony would win this fight simply because I've been a longtime fan of the Playstation platform. Blu-Ray's name comes from the blue-violet laser used to read and write to the disk, but you obviously knew that.

    More media attention:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7252506.stm

    Sony's gamble paid off and Microsoft really wasn't much of a team player with Toshiba.
     
  10. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm covered since I'm dual format, but am anxiously awaiting the slashed prices for HD DVD movies. Many dual release movies have better features on the HD DVD version so I have no qualms buying discs for HD DVD. Considering that I paid $99 for my HD DVD add on a year ago and all the BOGO deals I got I don't regret paying what I've paid for my HD DVD collection, which is at 30+ movies. Then again, it's also a risk when becoming an early adopter.

    As for the PS3, yeah it's one of the better blu-ray players out there right now but keep in mind that it CAN'T process DTS HD or DTS HDMA audio, which if you're an audioholic is a huge let down.
     
  11. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
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    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I've read, that's to be covered in a firmware upgrade.
     
  12. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yes, but a good deal of my collection is Region 2. I'm trying to figure out a way to Region hack it right now.
     
  13. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Good to know. I guess I'll be waiting for more players and cheaper prices before I migrate to Blu-Ray. I don't really want a PS3 anyway.
     
  14. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes. It stores way more on a disk, and was originally designed to provide reliable read/write media for computers.
    Not a lot if you are buying movies. They look pretty much the same on both.
    And it will probably stay that way. They have to look "premium" compared to regular DVDs, and for each Blu-Ray disk and player there is a license fee going to Sony, unlike regular DVDs which have no corporate licensing ownership.
     
  15. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    Firmware upgrade won't do a thing since the PS3 can't bitstream DTS-HD MA or TrueHD. It can only decode TrueHD and hopefully will someday decode HDMA.
     
  16. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
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    United States
    Somehow I knew you'd say that. :) Just telling you what I had read somewhere. Can't believe everything you read.

    On a side note, it's going to be interesting to see how this affects console sales. The PS3 is drilling the 360 in Japan and European countries like Germany, France, Italy, and Spain. It's three to one in sales in PAL areas and the PAL PS3 install base will be larger than the 360's by this summer. In January, the PS3 outsold the 360 in the US. And all of this was happening before HD DVD kicked the bucket.
     
  17. patrickdavila

    patrickdavila Member

    Jan 13, 1999
    Easton, PA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes Blu-Ray stores more data. The video and audio quality was a wash. A negative (for consumers) is that Blu-Ray still uses regions. HD-DVD does not implement regions. You buy a disc from Japan and play it anywhere else. Great for imports. Oh well, life goes on.

    I've started a petition to get Toshiba to release the specs on the entire HD-DVD line. Maybe the Open Source community can come up with something to use those 1.3 million players out there:
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/HD-DVDSpecRelease/

    and please digg it here:
    http://www.digg.com/gadgets/Petition_Toshiba_to_release_specs_for_their_HD_DVD_players

    Thanks
     
  18. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Great idea. I was talking about this with a coworker yesterday. Signed and dugg. And I'll pass it along on the tidbits mailing list here at the supercomputer center I work at.
     
  19. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    LG says they have no plans to abandon HD DVD and will continue to make players as long as there are consumers. At least I'll have a back up.
     
  20. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Convert_Your_HD_DVDs_to_Blu-Ray

     
  21. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to rumors, the HD-DVD add-on for XBOX 360 will be $50, starting tomorrow.
     
  22. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mothertrucker.
     
  23. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also...

    GameStop no longer takes HD DVDs, including your 360 add-on.

    P.S. I bought a couple of Blu-Ray movies today. :cool:
     
  24. rokstedy

    rokstedy Member+

    I love commieball
    Apr 20, 2001
    Northwest Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was perusing through deepdiscount.com and a lot of their HD-DVDs have gone down from $30 to $12.20. Who knows, these might be collector items one day.
     
  25. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It'd be FUN if it was a marketing ploy, wouldn't it? "Let's say we're done, deeply discount everything, then strike Blu-Ray when they're least expecting it."

    Reminds me of the Trojan Horse, in a way.

    Oh well, I can dream.


    HD-DVD can have a place on the shelf next to laser disc, Beta Max, and 8 track.
     

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