Analysis: CHI-ESP - Rodriguez (MEX)

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  1. MassachusettsRef

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    #1 MassachusettsRef, Jun 24, 2010
    All pre-match discussion of the appointment, play-by-play descriptions and post-match analysis of the officiating performance for this match belong in this thread.

    Analysis threads in this forum are strictly moderated. Supporters of participating teams are welcome and encouraged to participate. But all posters should take non-analytical posts to the group or rivalries forums. Thank you.

    Match #47, Chile - Spain, Group H
    Referee: Rodriguez (MEX)
    Assistant 1: Camargo (MEX)
    Assistant 2: Morin (MEX)
    Fourth Official: Mohd Salleh (MAS)
     
  2. MassachusettsRef

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    #2 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    Shocked that Rodriguez didn't send Ponce off for that.
     
  3. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

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    #3 chaoslord08, Jun 25, 2010
    Agreed
     
  4. MetroFever

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    #4 MetroFever, Jun 25, 2010
    Someone care to explain to the ESPN announcers that a throw-in doesn't have to be pretty to be a legal one. :)

    How is the kick to the ankle only a yellow and not a red? If he went down as if he got shot, he probably would have gotten Rodriguez to pull out a red.
     
  5. Another NH Ref

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    #5 Another NH Ref, Jun 25, 2010
    You beat me to it but: ditto.
     
  6. JohnW

    JohnW Member

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    #6 JohnW, Jun 25, 2010
    Especially given that the kick made contact (albeit seemingly minimal).
     
  7. Another NH Ref

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    #7 Another NH Ref, Jun 25, 2010
    Well, it isn't strictly refereeing content but: WOW!
     
  8. MassachusettsRef

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    #8 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    Ok. Who is this guy and what did he do with Marco Rodriguez? Two clear opportunities to send players off and he balked at both. I'll play psychologist... did he get a behind-the-scenes whack about the Cahill red card and now he's second-guessing himself?
     
  9. code1390

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    #9 code1390, Jun 25, 2010
    Maybe the rediculous swan dive by the Spainish player prevented the 2nd yellow.
     
  10. MassachusettsRef

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    #10 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    Didn't prevent the first yellow he gave, and there was much more contact and a better attacking opportunity in this instance. And, I can't believe I'm saying this, but he looked like he was going to book him until he realized he already had. It's all very odd.
     
  11. MetroFever

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    #11 MetroFever, Jun 25, 2010
    Torres got body-checked!
     
  12. MassachusettsRef

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    #12 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    Yup. Thought it'd be a penalty.

    OH! And now it's going to get dirty...
     
  13. code1390

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    #13 code1390, Jun 25, 2010
    And its off.
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

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    #14 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    Ok. Should have been sent off for VC. Gets him for a preposterous (or if we're being very generous, a highly dubious) tactical foul later. And after a goal. So it's 2-0 and Chile has very little hope and they are down a man. Already with multiple cautions.

    I say we see another red, easy.
     
  15. bluedevils

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    #15 bluedevils, Jun 25, 2010
    all I saw was what looked like incidental contact where Torres appeared to get clipped, and a second or two later Iniesta score for 2-0 Spain. The Chilean player got a 2nd caution for that? Assuming that is true, it was harsh in typical Rodriguez fashion :(
     
  16. Another NH Ref

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    #16 Another NH Ref, Jun 25, 2010
    It's also entirely possible he told him he was getting off on the last one but if he so much as breathes on an opponent again he's gone. Giving him the chance to keep himself in the game.
     
  17. DiablesRouges

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    #17 DiablesRouges, Jun 25, 2010
    Here's a perfect example why refs should be allowed to give red cards for simualtion.
     
  18. code1390

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    #18 code1390, Jun 25, 2010
    44:15 ref calls foul on Chile. AR calls foul on Spain.
     
  19. RayRichards

    RayRichards New Member

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    #19 RayRichards, Jun 25, 2010
    Well you got it 100% right. Another game spoiled by this referee. Incidental contact and a total accident, he wasn't even looking at Torres he was watching the ball. How this guy got this appointment after his poor handling of Germany V Australia I will never know. FIFA are a joke.
     
  20. chaoslord08

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    #20 chaoslord08, Jun 25, 2010
    Yeah, it was harsh, but odds are he only got half a look at it and/or the AR alerted him to it.

    The lesson is to not step on the heel of a forward who is streaking through on the back side during a pretty good attacking chance.
     
  21. RayRichards

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    #21 RayRichards, Jun 25, 2010
    And it should have been a penalty and he didn't call it for the body check in the area.
     
  22. code1390

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    #22 code1390, Jun 25, 2010
    Why do you seem to only show up when controversal decisions happen?
     
  23. MassachusettsRef

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    #23 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    The post you quoted analyzed what happened.

    You, again, offered nothing.

    You've been warned repeatedly and all you've done since you joined this site is troll the WC Referee board--literally, that's it. Stop it.
     
  24. RayRichards

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    #24 RayRichards, Jun 25, 2010
    Offered nothing? You can't take criticism of referees, that is all it is.
     
  25. MassachusettsRef

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    #25 MassachusettsRef, Jun 25, 2010
    Given my penchant for criticizing officials, that's downright laughable.

    Look, you joined this site solely to criticize referees. Your posts, statistics and join date prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. That is the definition of trolling. You're spoiling the forum and no one wants to put up with it. So you'll be banned shortly.
     
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