Analysis: AUS-SRB - Larrionda (URU)

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  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Match #40 - Australia v. Serbia
    Referee: Larrionda (URU)
    Assistant 1: Fandino (URU)
    Assistant 2: Espinosa (URU)
    Fourth Official: Batres (GUA)
     
  2. refmedic

    refmedic Member

    Sep 22, 2008
    This should tell everyone where FIFA thinks Larrionda ranks in the referee heirarchy. I think this is the biggest match of the entire group stage, and has the potential to be a real challenge. I think this combination of teams and referee will provide one hell of a match!
     
  3. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    Over/under on red cards??? I'd say 1+.
     
  4. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well if Australia continues their current form I'm thinking at least two send offs. They have been quite undisciplined in their play.
     
  5. Loyalty

    Loyalty Member

    Jun 25, 2006
    Australia
    Cahills send off should not have been.
    Harry's - he wasn't able to move in time.

    I hardly call the red cards undisciplined.
     
  6. bluedevils

    bluedevils Member

    Nov 17, 2002
    USA
    It's not really the place to continue this discussion, but Australia's play has been very undisiplined and overly aggressive going back to their last couple WC tune-up matches and continuing into their first 2 WC group matches. For whatever reason, I sorta root for Australia -- maybe because they have a handful of familiar EPL players. But they have definitely been guilty of a higher number of physical, reckless, and/or stupid challenges than most teams.

    Larrionda definitely may have his hands full in this match.
     
  7. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no idea why FIFA thinks highly of this referee. He has experience surely, but he's not very good IMO.
     
  8. Loyalty

    Loyalty Member

    Jun 25, 2006
    Australia
    Actually, in terms of yellow cards Aust is the "best" team in Group D.

    Serbia 6 yellows (plus 2 yellows = 1 red. Lukovic)

    Germany 5 yellows (plus 2 yellow = 1 red. Klose)

    Ghana 5 yellows (and Addy should have had 1 red)

    Aust 4 yellows (2 straight reds, both debateable).

    6 teams have more yellow cards than Aust so far.

    Link: http://english.sina.com/sports/2010/0619/325473.html



    Maybe an early red from this card happy ref to a Serbian might help our cause and we could go on with it this time.
     
  9. bluedevils

    bluedevils Member

    Nov 17, 2002
    USA
    I stand by my claim. I think most neutrals would agree.

    Each game is different. Comparing the number of cards to other teams in the group has SOME value, but not a ton. The referee plays a huge role. A card-happy ref has saddled many teams in this WC with a pile of yellow cards that really were not reflective of rough play.

    And a straight red sometimes has a way of making a team realize they better cut the crap and play football, i.e. don't take a bunch of yellow cards.

    Good luck to Australia in this match. I hope they win and play well.
     
  10. RayRichards

    RayRichards New Member

    Jun 19, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    You are 100% correct, and other tackles from behind have gone unpunished.

    Why wasn't Vidic issued a red card for elbowing Cahill in the face?

    Exactly the same as the incident the other day where a player was given red. Consistency is a joke this tournament.
     
  11. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huge (and correct) offside decision around the 87th minute that would have sent Serbia though and Ghana home.
     
  12. CravenCrew

    CravenCrew New Member

    Mar 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh dear. Serbia a little unlucky there to not get a penalty. Thoughts?
     
  13. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    I think (THINK) that's a penalty. His arm comes up and plays the ball there. But I can see the other side of that as well.
     
  14. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a penalty to me. Feel sorry for the Serbs, but I think larrionda got it right.
     
  15. deegen

    deegen Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    The possible handling? Personally I think the no-call was correct. His arms were far from his body, but were a natural position for someone jumping. This wasn't an example of trying to make himself bigger to block a shot or pass.
     
  16. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    There was Serbian defender whose arm was flailing at the same time, so Larrionda may not have been sure who it hit. He had a good angle on the play.
     
  17. PVancouver

    PVancouver Member

    Apr 1, 1999
    It will certainly make for an excellent example, whichever way it "should" be called. I think Cahill was waving his arm for balance, but I also think USSF would give the penalty there.
     
  18. RayRichards

    RayRichards New Member

    Jun 19, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München

    I am sorry, anyone that thinks that is hand ball should not be refereeing. This is not a slur against anyone here, but that was totally accidental and ball went to hand, hand didn't go to ball.
     
  19. RayRichards

    RayRichards New Member

    Jun 19, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Yes, they got one right. Good call.
     
  20. CravenCrew

    CravenCrew New Member

    Mar 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This insult seems very popular on this board for the last couple days
     
  21. jarbitro

    jarbitro Member+

    Mar 13, 2003
    N'Djamena, Tchad
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that is no way a penalty.i also think (like Simon) that this game was signficantly better than his first game (I think with Portugal). He kept control, and the last 15 minutes were wide open. The players were not keeping up with the play, and he was. It was obvious his fitness surpassed the teams, and he seemed to mentally keep up too.

    Did anyone else think he sort of made up a foul (around 75 min or so) to stop the play to deal with the injured Serbian? I like that, and think it also bought him game control, by slowing it down. That was a critical point, because it was starting to get heated. I think that decision allowed the last 15 minutes to be played at a frantic pace but w/o real nastiness.

    Larrionda is one of my least favorite referees, but I think this was one of his best games that I can remember.
     
  22. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It has, and it's now been addressed privately for the second time. The poster in question created his profile this month, has only posted in this forum, and has only been critical of referees. No one has to agree 100% of the time, but his purpose of complaining about calls and slightly referees has become apparent. He's had his last warning.
     
  23. jarbitro

    jarbitro Member+

    Mar 13, 2003
    N'Djamena, Tchad
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, the first caution to Australia I think was the first caution of the tournament where a player both got the foul, and got a caution for embellishment (or was the caution for something earlier? On the ESPN game cast it looked like he got it for exaggerating the foul, even though Larrionda did call the foul).
     
  24. PVancouver

    PVancouver Member

    Apr 1, 1999
    At 48:24, Australia #6 got cautioned for studs on an ankle, #2 was the player who got whacked in the back of the head and put hands to his face on flopped to the ground. It would have made an interesting test case, but it didn't happen.
     
  25. jarbitro

    jarbitro Member+

    Mar 13, 2003
    N'Djamena, Tchad
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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