american soldier rescued.

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by fidlerre, Apr 1, 2003.

  1. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
  2. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
  3. Waingro

    Waingro Member

    Feb 15, 2003
    San Diego, CA.
    This is awesome news! Thanks for posting the link as this was the first I'd heard of it...

    I wonder how they learned of her location and if they're using the same intelligence to plan other rescues.
    Whatever, you've just put me in a great mood!!!
     
  4. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    tell me about it...

    when i first saw this young woman's picture back when she went missing i guess my heart was pained a little more, i dont know how to explain it other than to say she is a woman, and every time i see a woman in a POW/MIA status is hurts b/c i am so fearful of what those scum bags would do to a woman soldier.

    anyway, i am so happy and can only hope that more rescues are to come in the coming days <all the networks are now claiming she was rescued from a "hospital" in nasiriya>
     
  5. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    I thought she was dead for sure. After seeing that she was MIA and not seeing her face on Iraqi t.v., I thought the game was up. Good news indeed! Strange how she seems to have been separated from the rest of the POWs.
     
  6. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Re: Re: american soldier rescued.

    Honest question here: What gives you (or anyone else) the impression that "those scumbags" would seriously mistreat a female soldier, at least worse than her male colleagues?
     
  7. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Re: Re: Re: american soldier rescued.

    One look at the picture should pretty much answer that question. Definitely a worry.
     
  8. yalpstel

    yalpstel Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: american soldier rescued.

    In addition to what BReilly said, the female POW from GW1 was dragged on the ground by her two fractured arms and repeatedly and brutally raped by her captors. That's what gives me the impression.

    I'm happy she's safe now. The healing can begin.
     
  9. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Re: Re: Re: american soldier rescued.

    Why wouldn't they mistreat her? The Geneva Convention?
     
  10. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Fair enough.

    Basically wanted to know if there had been a precedent set or whether it was just supposition.
     
  11. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Glad to she has been rescued. I also get a little pit in my stomach when I hear of a female POW.

    On the sad side, apparently they found the bodies of multiple US soldiers (nine?) when they rescued Jessica. It's unclear to me at this point whether any of these are the 4 POWs who were shown on Iraqi tv or if these were others that were listed as missing.
     
  12. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Just as good news comes in...it turns bad.

    That shows how this "live" war develops in front of our eyes.

    Most interesting to note, the fact that at 3am local time Centcom held this press conference. Rumsfeld was on TV saying that he will allow them to tell the world of some good news to come.

    Now, as I just stated, this could turn to be better news, but who knows right now. As I see it right now, they went through all this effort to make this news, contact the families, all the POW families involved and in the end had about a 10 second statement.

    It very well could be an attempt to put the best spin on a botched rescue mission.
     
  13. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    You find a way to ruin any good news don't you? Those people were dead in most peoples eyes, so for any of them to come back alive is a miracle.
     
  14. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    Great news indeed. Unfortunately, they did recover bodies, last I saw was numbered at 11. Congrats to the SEALs, Rangers, and Marines involved for a job well done on bringing back some of our own.
     
  15. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Call a friend. Ask for a hug.
     
  16. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Let's see here. Before you ever showed up to this website (that is if you aren't a sock) I have been ruining all the good news for everyone. Yes, you caught me.

    Anyway, you should have planned in your personal war room the real value of one person. While we are all pleased to see this positive outcome for this individual, at what cost to many others and their families?

    Even the US court system, insurance companies and just about any manufacturing industry put a value to a human life. I find it ironic that a military, that kills folks for a living (yes, quite simple, but a basic goal nonetheless) diverts so much attention and resources for the end result of one person. I mean, even you said they "were dead in most peoples eyes."

    In fact, my intent was not and is not to rain on your parade. Call it military analysis at its cheapest. Even if you are posting from work, nobody is getting paid to give their educated opinions.

    I think you and cl_hanley should hug each other. :rolleyes:

    In fact, she herself (and by no fault of her own) might feel guilty for the numbers that died to save her. These must be calculated moves and we all know how easy it would be to try and spin it best. While I don't think there is an attempted "cover-up" in the watergate/whitewater sense, but as I stated before, we don't know all the deatils and we can hope for the best. Maybe you missed "this could turn to be better news, but who knows right now."
     
  17. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Re: Re: Re: american soldier rescued.

    have you seen the qualiy of women the iraqi's have to "work" with...?
     
  18. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    what others died trying to save her?
     
  19. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, let me say that I am happy for her and her family that she's alive and well. With that said, it was interesting to watch the Big Three spin this story on the morning news shows. Everybody now wants to i-view this cute 19-year-old white woman as a human interest story - ABC sunk all the way down to interviews with her softball coach in high school. How's that news?

    Again, I am very happy for her and her family, but if the Pentagon trots her out on every TV station over the next few days, it will likely turn out a bit sickening.
     
  20. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kudos to the Rangers, Seals and Air Force special ops soldiers that pulled this off. Right of the line, lads.
     
  21. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Despite the barrage of enemy gunfire entering and leaving Saddam Hospital, there were no coalition casualties in Wednesday's rescue raid, said Brooks. - CNN.com

    - 'nuff said.
     
  22. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Thanks for the update!
    This turned out better than at first glance, which was my point in the first place.

    That hug worked wonders btw. :)
     
  23. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14879-2003Apr2.html

    Pfc. Jessica Lynch, rescued Tuesday from an Iraqi hospital, fought fiercely and shot several enemy soldiers after Iraqi forces ambushed the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, firing her weapon until she ran out of ammunition, U.S. officials said yesterday.

    Lynch, a 19-year-old supply clerk, continued firing at the Iraqis even after she sustained multiple gunshot wounds and watched several other soldiers in her unit die around her in fighting March 23, one official said.
     
  24. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    100% guaranteed that this story will end up being turned into a film in afew years time.
     
  25. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I bet a book comes out first.
     

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