American officials at Gold Cup?

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  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone know the exact list of which American officials are at the Gold Cup? US Soccer doesn't list it on their website and CONCACAF only lists who does the middle of each game. Knowing which Americans are at the Gold Cup might help in determining exactly which ones are truly in contention for WC06.

    So far, I've only been able to find out that Hall had the Jamaica-Guatemala match. I assume Stott's on the list as well (maybe he had one of the postponed Miami matches?), but have no idea which ARs are there and to whom they are tied.
     
  2. mutinywxgirl

    mutinywxgirl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    St. Petersburg, FL
    I haven't been able to find anything either. I thought I was just being stupid in not knowing where to look.
     
  3. RushOnze

    RushOnze New Member

    May 16, 2001
    Colorado
    Stott, Barkey, Strickland, Hall worked LA and Houston venue
     
  4. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meaning a pure rotation? Both Hall and Stott had those 2 as their ARs? If so, what happened to Lowry?
     
  5. mutinywxgirl

    mutinywxgirl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    St. Petersburg, FL
    Who knows, but I'd LOVE to know who's going to be at Giants Stadium on Thursday.....
     
  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since it seems impossible to find a record of who's done which match, it's very difficult to spectulate. But I'd thinks it's a safe guess to say Hall or Stott for the second match. If not, one of them is working the 3rd place match or the final--whichever the US doesn't make.

    Since I doubt it will be someone who's already worked a US game for the first match (no Archundia, no Pineda, no Batres) I think we're unfortunately looking at someone from the pool of Navarro, Sibrian or Prendergast, who are probably the 3 most hated active CONCACAF refs by USMNT fans. I suspect whichever one hasn't worked a Honduras match as well will also be chosen.
     
  7. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say it's a safe bet that one of Hall or Stott will get the Panama v. Colombia match. There is no 3rd place match this year.

    Please - Sibrian - Navarro & Prendergast have been terrible the last couple times they've done our games. Particularly Navarro.
     
  8. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who worked the QFs? Did either American?
     
  9. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sibrian worked the COL-MEX match and Armando worked the CRC-HON match.

    The other two match reports didn't list the referee.
     
  10. Statesman

    Statesman New Member

    Sep 16, 2001
    The name says it all
    Here is what I found:

    July 6 - Panama v Colombia - BATRES
    July 6 - T&T v Honduras - NAVARRO

    July 7 - USA v Cuba - PINEDA
    July 7 - Costa Rica v Canada - PENDERGAST

    July 8 - Jamaica v Guatemala - HALL
    July 8 - South Africa v Mexico - SIBRIAN

    July 9 - USA v Canada - BRIZAN
    July 9 - Costa Rica v Cuba - ARCHUNDIA

    July 10 - Honduras v Colombia - RODRIGUEZ
    July 10 - T&T v Panama - WYNGAARDE
    July 10 - Mexico v Guatemala - RUIZ
    July 10 - Jamaica v South Africa - STOTT

    July 12 - USA v Costa Rica - ARCHUNDIA
    July 12 - Canada v Cuba - MORENO
    July 12 - Honduras v Panama - WYNGAARDE
    July 12 - Colombia v T&T - RODRIGUEZ

    July 13 - Mexico v Jamaica - QUESADA
    July 13 - Guatemala v South Africa - STOTT

    July 16 - USA v Jamaica - BATRES
    July 16 - Honduras v Costa Rica - ARCHUNDIA

    July 17 - Colombia v Mexico - SIBRIAN
    July 17 - Panama v South Africa - PENDERGAST
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good find.

    It may be completely irrelevant insofar as assignments for the Gold Cup, but it might be important to note that assignments for the next round of WCQ in CONCACAF are also out:

    Mexico - Costa Rica - PINEDA (HON)
    Guatemala - Panama - SIBRIAN (SLV)
    United States - Trinidad & Tobago - RODRIGUEZ (MEX)

    Again, could be irrelevant, but I would suspect that Rodriguez doesn't get the US semifinal because he has us in August. If I were to guess after seeing Statesman's list, I'd say:

    Ruiz (COL) for the USA-Honduras match and Hall (USA) for the Panama-Colombia match. They've both only had one match. Neither worked a quarterfinal. They've both been to a World Cup before. And both would be out of contention for the final should their national team win its semi. It would seem their appointments make the most sense. Then again, that might be precisely the reason we don't see either on Thursday.
     
  12. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that Stott has the Galaxy-DCU match tomorrow. With the timing needed to make MLS assignments, it's as if USSF knew that he wouldn't be working the final weekend of Gold Cup matches.

    As for the final, I'm not sure how Archundia isn't the guy. Batres seems to be the only other guy in contention, but he's had the US twice already, he had a run-in with Arena, and I think he's already reffed a Gold Cup Final. Plus, with Mexico usually around late in the Gold Cup, Mexican referees face the same problem American referees usually have, of being precluded from working semis and finals. That's not the case this year.
     
  13. mutinywxgirl

    mutinywxgirl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    St. Petersburg, FL
    I think I got some interesting pictures of the refs from both games. I'll get them posted as soon as possible.
     

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