American democracy health thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. Dr. Wankler

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    #4401 Dr. Wankler, May 29, 2024
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    Tell you what. You want to impress me? Upthread someone posted this...

    Convince him that Hunter Biden's laptop is an issue he should care about. Maybe doing so will convince us.
     
  2. ElNaranja

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    It's proof that they're a criminal family empire. Ie, read my post above for all the details.

    Once they get one family member, the rest will be easy, saving the world*.

    By world, they mean white Americans men.
     
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  3. Potowmack

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    Well, if there is evidence on his laptop, or that otherwise comes out during his prosecution, that points to corruption on the part of Joe Biden, we can go from there.

    Hunter Biden is in his '50's. His poor life choices and criminality don't have anything to do with his father's Presidency.
     
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  4. Q*bert Jones III

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    Watch out everybody, he's using the dialectic.
     
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  5. Dr. Wankler

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    I reported the post for this blatant TOS violation.
     
  6. usscouse

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    His criminality, hmmm. So you do watch Fox.
     
  7. Sounders78

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    That's a pretty big IF.



    In other words, until there is actual evidence to suggest otherwise, unlike the orange idiot's trials this is not at all an important issue in regards to the election.
     
  8. NietzscheIsDead

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    Why would I want to impress you? This is a message board. Nobody cares.

    I simply tried to get you to provide a fact that supports your conspiracy theory. You all avoid facts and point to Marcy Wheeler, which is a huge red flag.

    I am willing to have reasonable conversations about political topics, but if you all can’t even admit that Hunter Biden’s laptop is being used by Biden’s DOJ as evidence against him, then you cant have a political conversation. My time is worth a lot more than to continue with this level of pothead duncery. Next up you will deny the moon landing and insist that the earth is flat…and you’ll cackle about it like Jabba the Hutt’s little gargoyle heckler guy. Not interesting, nor worth my time.
     
  9. superdave

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    If it’s not worth your time, why are you here? Why cain’t yew quit us?
     
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  10. yossarian

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    This is all a very strange conversation (not blaming you for any of that). In a recent ruling, the Judge in his gun charge case said that some contents from the laptop specifically relevant to the gun charge will be admitted. That's it. Nothing earth shattering. Just a run of the mill pre-trial evidentiary ruling in a criminal case.
     
  11. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Evidence of WHAT? Please explain.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    It's because OP insists on discussing at an infantile level.

    Marcy has a decent review of the defence argument here

    Mr. Biden’s counsel told the Special Counsel on May 10, 2024 it agrees not to challenge the authenticity of the electronic data the Special Counsel intends to use with respect to it being what law enforcement received on December 9, 2019 from John Paul Mac Isaac (owner of The Mac Shop), and from Apple on August 29, 2019 and in a follow-up search on July 10, 2020. (Mot. at n.3.) However, Mr. Biden cannot agree this electronic data is “authentic” as to being his data as he used and stored it prior to Mac Issac [sic] obtaining it. Mac Issac [sic] claims he received an Apple MacBook laptop from a customer on April 12, 2019. FBI investigators did not obtain that data until December 9, 2019 through a grand jury subpoena, or gain lawful permission to access it until December 13, 2019 through a search warrant (No. 19-309M), some eight months after the Mac Isaac acquired the laptop. 2

    https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/05/...s-to-prove-the-gun-case-against-hunter-biden/
    Of course the prosecution is likely to be able to rely on messages to the gun shop and videos etc of Hunter demonstrating drug use in this trivial case. But I stick to my view that unless DOJ goes full Trumpian, we'll never see the laptop support some wider ranging corruption charge.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    Weiss has had 5 years to find it and came up with nothing.
     
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  14. Belgian guy

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    American democracy right now:

    [​IMG]
     
  15. yossarian

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    It's about to become a vampire ? If my recollection of what that pic is from is correct.
     
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  16. Belgian guy

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    Dawn of the Dead! Greatest of the Romero living dead films.
    That's a famous shot of Roger in the final stages of succumbing to his zombie bite (before reanimating as a zombie).
     
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  17. yossarian

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    Ah, I was wrong. I was thinking Salem's Lot.
     
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  18. Belgian guy

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    Tobe Hooper series starring David Soul?
    Tom Savini famously did the special effects make-up on Dawn of the Dead. Whilst he did other genre/horror stuff throughout the 70s and 80s, I don't think Salem's Lot was one of the projects he worked on.
     
  19. rslfanboy

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    You are literally talking to yourself. Nobody here has a clue. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  20. yossarian

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    Well, the Salem's Lot I was referring to is the one with David Soul, so I got it.
     
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  21. charlie15

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    Not sure where to put this but in any case, good bye Manchin....You won't be missed much. You will be gone anyway in 5 months.


    Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) announced he left the Democratic Party and registered as an independent.
    It’s unclear whether Manchin will continue to caucus with Democrats in the Senate.
     
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  22. rslfanboy

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    Are they still pushing judges through?

    I am grateful for Manchin’s presence in that effort.
     
  23. Sounders78

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    Are people still saying American democracy is on life support or can we declare it officially dead now?

    I said the pulse stopped back in 2016, but the body was still warm. I don't think that's the case anymore - that body has cooled off.
     
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  24. PJ234

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    We just need someone to hack and get some dirt on people and we'll be fine.
     
  25. Chesco United

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    The Supreme Court hurt American democracy today.
     

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