AMERICA = One qualifying region for WC?

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by NCCFBALL, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ok, aside of all the we are better then you, no we are. Aside from both the US and Mexico getting to the Round of 16, aside from both sides playing good at times and bad at others. At the end of the day, we both suck, let's be honest neither side will hoist a cup anytime soon. I hate to say that especially with the young guns we have and I'l be honest back in '98 even though the US was dead last, I've always thought in the back of my head that the US would win a WC in 20 years (they can have the talent, have money). Well I don't see that happening either.

    All of this to extend a question to you guys. Should all of America be one qualifying region? Let's be honest, neither the US or Mexico will get any better beating each other in our homefield nor beating CR, Honduras, or Canada. Yeah, it will be MUCH more difficult to qualify but I still think that Mexico and US are already in the top 8 footballing nations in the continent, so if all America had the CONMEBOL and CONCACAF spots that would be 8 spots at least, so we should still be able to qualify, it would be tougher playing Ecuador as compared to lets say El Salvador, but it will only make us better.
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  2. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    As a US fan, I wouldn't mind a merger, though setting up a joint confederation (esp. with all the islands) might be difficult. The key for both the US and Mexico is to get experience playing good teams. (For example, the US warmed up for the Barbados matches by playing England, Spain, and Argentina.)
     
  3. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering CONCACAF teams haven't beaten another confederation in a knockout round game since 1986, I'm willing top consider this. We've had some good fights (US-Ger 02, Arg-Mex 06) but can't seem to actually close the deal. Even Asia's done better in that regard.
     
  4. dundee9

    dundee9 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    talent grows at the club level.

    If playing in a confederation with great teams makes a team better than why is peru not a great team? and why has colombia gotten worse internationally?

    I would like a merger with conmebol for an entirely different reason and that is we would finally be able to have a regional tournament that is similar to what the Euro is.
     
  5. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    exactly, mexico faced conmebols 4th and 5th placed teams and barely scored a goal. im not saying mexico wouldnt make it, but damn, i dont believe anybody would want to risk a world cup without mexico.
     
  6. DiamondsYank

    DiamondsYank New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    NYC Metro Area
    This. ^^

    Can anyone really take the CCL seriously? It is not now nor ever will be anything like the Copa Libertadores. As for National team competitions, to be honest, CONCACAF does not deserve 3 entries in the World Cup. Ecuador narrowly missed making WC2010, but I'd venture to say they would have put on a better performance than Honduras did. I would definitely be in favor of an "Americas" federation, with all 8 spots collectively up for grabs. But that will never happen. What financial motivation would CONMEBOL have to merge with CONCACAF? They do well enough by their own elitists selves. And for the sake of fairness, what would we do with the Caribbean nations? In a united Americas federation you can all but be assured they will never see a World Cup...ever.
     
  7. DeLaMata

    DeLaMata New Member

    Apr 6, 2010
    Honestly, there's just no way of really making it work. Forget that CONMEBOL doesn't gain much on a footballing level (aside from maybe an extra qualifier). Forget that United States and Mexico might struggle to qualify.

    The vast majority of CONCACAF has 0 interest in seeing a merger. They would not benefit in any way (countries that are poor in CONCACAF will not magically become better by playing better opposition... playing in CONMEBOL hasn't made Peru any good). This is the kind of idea that Mexicans and Americans like to consider, but the rest of the Americas (South, Central and Caribbean) don't give a second thought to.
     
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  8. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's time to consider it. Logistically it would be a nightmare, but on the club and international level it could turn into a money spinner.
     
  9. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CONMEBOL would access the lucrative North American and Mexican TV markets. The Copa de America would rival the Euro in TV revenue and prestige. More exposure/revenue for the club tournaments as well. Extra WC spots.
     
  10. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
  11. DiamondsYank

    DiamondsYank New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    NYC Metro Area
    Precisely my point. They already bring in Mexican club teams to the Copa Libertadores. That competition is already seen in the North American tv market. So what incentive would they have to merge with CONCACAF? What would they be gaining? MLS teams that pretty much the entire world views as inferior? Bahamas and Barbados in international competition? I see no financial reason for CONMEBOL to merge. That doesn't mean I think it's a bad idea. On the contrary, I'd love to see one Fed for the Americas. I just think money talks, and it's giving a resounding "no" to the idea.
     
  12. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So what you are saying is that by having Mexican clubs in Libertadores, that alone milks all the money that CONMEBOL could make from the cash cow that is Mexican football? Doesn't make sense.
     
  13. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It doesn't at all. The logistical argument is more of a sticking point imo.
     
  14. southamerican1984

    southamerican1984 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 10, 2005
    As a south american, I think your idea is great! wowww, can u imagine 10 south american teams at every world cup? cool! :cool:
     

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