Am I reading things right Are the Metro's getting a coach by trading players????

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by EL MONO MARIO, Oct 21, 2002.

  1. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only in MLS can a team get a new coach by trading Players. When don't they make things simple. Bob can resign as Fire coach and then move to the MetroStars. Or is this another MLS gag to make the NJ sinking ship stay afloat?????
    But like I read somewhere before. It's the Metrosucks, they'll find a way to F things up!!!
     
  2. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    there is precedent in the revolution taking rongen from the mutiny and giving the mutiny a draft pick(s?)
     
  3. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like I said only in MLS..
     
  4. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    not really

    with the draft system they have set up... it's fairly common in this country
     
  5. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    No, it's an American Sports issue, been done lots in other sports here.

    Also it happens in England, where a coach will leave and a "fee" is paid. Players are worth money, therefor it's more or less the same thing. So don't worry El Morono.
     
  6. thurd

    thurd New Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Melrose, MA
    lou pinnela is leaving seattle mariners for compensation of players. bill parcells left the patriots for the jets for compensation(draft picks) and the patriots got bill belicheck from the jets for compensation (draft pick)
     
  7. neilgrossman

    neilgrossman New Member

    May 12, 2000
    Hoboken, NJ
    The same thing happened in the NFL a few times. Draft picks were traded for Bill Billacheck, Bill Parcells and John Gruden recently.

    The medium of exchange in US sports is usually draft picks. In Europe, it's money. I see nothing strange about this.
     
  8. Topo

    Topo Member

    Feb 15, 2001
    Or other players. Rarely in the US do they just pay lump sums of cash.
     
  9. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could care less if it's done in NFL, MLB I mean soccer...

    I have never heard of a coach going to another team for players. NEVER.. Some people say it happens in England, I never seen or heard about it. But I'll take your word for it. Am sorry this to me just seems as another way to make the MetroStars a winning team. It will be funny though NICK S is such a @$$hole and Bob seems to have a little temper.... Can they get along????????
     
  10. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    I have a question and I'm not implying that MLS is or isn't helping Metro in this situation. With this league's stupid single entity structure, will there ever be a time when something goes right for Metro and it not immediately questioned as some sort of MLS conspiracy?
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chuck Tanner was traded from the A's to the Pirates for a player.
     
  12. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    As soon as the league stops putting players on your roster through "weighted lotteries" that don't cost you allocations, discoveries, or draft picks, you might get a little slack on the conspiracy stuff.

    But you still shouldn't have gotten Mathis.
     
  13. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "...and the winner of the lottery is...no...no...no...dammit, where is it?...no...no...oh hell, give me a pen...YESSS! Metros win the lottery!!!!"

    Call it paranoia all you want, but has NY/NJ ever LOST one of these "lotteries"

    And if MLS was so concerned about the appearance of fairness, they COULD, oh I don't know, announce the lottery beforehand or even, perish forfend, invite a couple reporters in to observe the drawing

    Instead, all we get is a press release: "In a lottery today, the Metrostars were awarded player X"

    Now I'm not one of the bigger conspiracy theorists around because a good conspiracy requires intelligennce and coordination, two things in relatively short supply at MLS HQ.

    But on the other hand, MLS does not go very far out of their way to show that it's on the up-and-up.

    Then there was the guy in Norway this year who was traded to a rival team for his weight in prawns.

    Which begs the question: How big a truck would you need to hold Sigi's weight in prawns? Would this create a worldwide prawn shortage?
     
  14. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    In other leagues the clubs the coach is moving to have to buy his contract out. Having to give a player or 2 is the same difference, they're giving up something of value. So it is NOT "only in MLS". It's the norm.
     
  15. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    And you shouldn't have gotten Franchino who marked Cobi out of most of Sunday's match.

    And if it weren't for single entity, you also wouldn't have Adin Brown, Steve Ralston, Alex Pineda Chacon, Jim Rooney.....
     
  16. thurd

    thurd New Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Melrose, MA
    adin brown was a free agent that no one drafted or wanted to sign. he came to new england at a lower salary after all this
     
  17. owendylan

    owendylan Member

    May 30, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Glenn Hoddle left Southampton for Tottenham in the middile of the season. Steve Bruce left Crystal Palace for Birmingham in the middle of the season. Those are 2 recent examples (last season) from England, but I'm sure there are more. The losing teams were compensated with money, as valuable and in some cases more valuable than players.
     
  18. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In hockey, let's not forget about Michel Bergeron from Quebec to the NY Rangers for a first round draft pick. On second thought, maybe we should. Ugh, talk about your bad flashbacks. Brrrrrrrr.
     

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