Kicker today published a magazine called “40 Jahre Bundesliga” with all kinds of information on the league [check the Germany board for further information]. Inside there’s a foreigner report including stats about the origin of all 1046 Bundesliga foreigners telling that 19 were YA (rank 16 among all nations – 1 Yugoslavia, 2 Denmark, 3 Poland). The stats part lists all Bundesliga players, but unfortunately without citizenship; I hope my list is right – especially I’m not sure if Kovalenko was already considered to be American. Gregg BERHALTER – born August 1, 1973 – season 02/03 – club: FC Energie Cottbus – 23 games John van BUSKIRK – born April 13, 1972 – season 95/96 – club: KFC Uerdingen - 1 game Paul CALIGIURI – born March 9, 1964 – season 95/96 – club: FC St. Pauli – 15 games Conor CASEY – born July 25, 1981 [if he had a bit more disciplined mum, then he’d exactly be five years younger than I am ] – season 02/03 – club: Hannover 96 – 4 games – 1 goal Steven CHERUNDOLO – born February 19, 1979 – season 02/03 – club: Hannover 96 – 33 games Chad DEERING – born September 2, 1970 – season 93/94 – club: FC Schalke 04 – 6 games – season 97/98 – club: VfL Wolfsburg – 15 games – Total: 21 games Thomas DOOLEY – born May 12, 1961 – seasons 86-88 – club: FC Homburg – 48 games – 2 goals – seasons 88-93 – club: 1. FC Kaiserslautern – 107 games – 13 goals – season 94/95 – club: Bayer Leverkusen – 16 games – 2 goals – seasons 95-97 – club: FC Schalke 04 – 28 games – 3 goals – Total: 199 games, 20 goals John DOYLE – born April 16, 1966 – season 93/94 – club: VfB Leipzig – 7 games Cory GIBBS – born January 14, 1980 – season 01/02 – club: FC St. Pauli – 25 games – 1 goal Frankie HEJDUK – born August 5, 1974 – seasons 98-01 – club: Bayer Leverkusen – 19 games – 1 goal Jovan KIROVSKI – March 18, 1976 – seasons 96-98 – club: Borussia Dortmund – 20 games – 1 goal Dema KOVALENKO – August 28, 1978 – season 01/02 – club: FC St Pauli – 5 games Michael MASON – born June 28, 1971 – seasons 94-97 – club: Hamburger SV – 11 games – 2 goals David REGIS – December 2, 1968 – season 97/98 – club: Karlsruher SC – 30 games – 5 goals Claudio REYNA – born July 20, 1973 – seasons 95-97 – club: Bayer Leverkusen – 26 games – seasons 97-99 – club: VfL Wolfsburg – 48 games – 7 goals – Total: 74 games, 7 goals Anthony SANNEH – born June 1, 1971 – seasons 98-01 – club: Hertha BSC Berlin – 32 games – 1 goal – seasons 01-03 – club: 1.FC Nuremberg – 45 games – 4 goals – Total: 77 games, 5 goals David WAGNER – born October 19, 1971 – seasons 90/91 – club: Eintracht Frankfurt – 1 game – seasons 95-97 – club: FC Schalke 04 – 29 games – 2 goals – Total: 30 games, 2 goals Peter WOODRING – born May 2, 1968 – seasons 92-94 – club: Hamburger SV – 6 games Eric WYNALDA – born June 9, 1969 – season 92/93 – club: 1.FC Saarbrücken – 32 games – 9 goals – season 94/95 – club: VfL Bochum – 22 games – Total: 54 games, 9 goals Don’t know if you want to add them to your list: Jermaine JONES – born November 3, 1981 – season 00/01 – club: Eintracht Frankfurt – 2 games [German with US father] Evans WISE – born November 23, 1973 – season 99/00 – club: SSV Ulm – 9 games [meanwhile US citizen but played for Trinidad & Tobago]
I don't think Kovalenko is a US citizen yet -- I could be wrong. Jones is a citizen whether he wants to play for the US or not (which I believe is moot because he has already played for Germany). As for Wise, I wasn't aware he'd become a citizen but it's certainly possible...
If Kovalenko isn't US citizen, then one player must be missing on the list. Jones is definitely counted as German. I'm pretty sure that I read about Wise getting the US citizenship (100% that he tried, 85% that he succeeded).
I know this is old info and much trodden ground Olaf, but what happened with Kirovski at Borussia Dortmund? Did he have any success with the senior squad?
They are probably counting Kovalenko as a citizen. He had lived in the US for a long time before going to Germany, including going to high school and college here -- plus he probably had a green card. (He does now, anyway.) So it would be an error, but an understandable one.
Dave, Olaf or anyone else - at what level did he play for Germany and is he cap-tied? Also, at the risk of a bad question, is Jermaine related to Steffi Jones of the Wshington Freedom and German women's national team? It's just so hard keeping up with all the Joneses!
I believe he is Steffi's brother. I can't say it with 100% certainty, however. Here's his "offizielle Website". http://www.jermaine-jones.de/jones.htm He's been capped for Germany at the U-21 level (roughly equivalent to our U-23s I think) but I'm not sure if he's ever played in a FIFA-sanctioned competition for them. Looks like he's trying to be part of the Olympic squad, however...
1) Kirvoski: no clue what happened. I think he simply was not good enough. From what I remember his main problem was to make his way in one on one situations. 2) as Dave said, Jones plays German U21. No chance for the US to get him away from the German roster. From 2004/05 on (maybe even this season in case that they can agree on a trade) he'll play in Leverkusen btw. 3) Jermaine and Steffi are very probably no siblings. Jermaine has one sister, but this should be known if it is Steffi.
Oh yeah, Jermaine's bio says he has a cousin named Dennis who played with him at SV Bonames, his first club. Not sure his last name, if he's American or if he's still playing. Steffi also played for SV Bonames... She has a younger brother, Frank, and an older brother. But I don't know his name, and there's no reason to think this is Dennis... I also think we should cap Frank, Dennis, the mystery brother, David Yelldell, and myself immediately.
Paul Caligiuri also played at Hansa Rostock in 90/91 and he won the last East-German-Championship with them. Remarkable!
The fact that Jones lists his mothers' but not his father's name on his personal info page, might be illustrative. There's U.S. military bases in Frankfurt and Weisbaden, near where Jones grew up. One wonders what happened to the dad, or if Jones even grew thinking of himself as "American."
Well, two days ago, I found this pic in Germany's biggest tabloid. Translated it says: I'm a football pro. I grew up in the ghetto. My father made off. Nevertheless I made it. Who am I? He grew up in Frankfurt Bonames which is one of the toughest places to live in Germany. There was also an article about him in the "Stern" a big German magazine and there will be more in the Bild next week, impressive if you consider that he hasn't played a Bundesliga match. He's a kind of inspiration and interesting for the media because of where he comes from. I'm a fan of him, saw a lot games of him, he could be a star in the future.
That's interesting -- I seem to remember reading that Steffi Jones' relationship with her father has also been somewhat strained over the years. She was raised in Germany while her father lived in the US...
Thomas Dooley also never saw his father. He did not even know that he was dead when he became a US citizen.