All-Time Chain Draft: TOURNAMENT - 3rd Round

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Perú FC, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Here we open the 3rd Round of the Tournament.

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    This is the fixture:

    GROUP A

    @thebigman vs. @msioux75
    @Diez vs. @tLB Odiseo
    @JJMM1 vs. @poetgooner


    GROUP B

    @Tom Stevens vs. @PDG1978
    @Perú FC vs. @heroearaucano
    @La-Máquina vs. @OT_CAPITANO


    Steps to follow:

    * First, all visitors must ban an opposing player (that player won't be able to participate).
    (@msioux75, @tLB Odiseo, @poetgooner, @PDG1978, @heroearaucano, @OT_CAPITANO)
    The maximum period for banning will be 24 hours from this publication.

    * Second, all locals also must ban an opposing player.
    (@thebigman, @Diez, @JJMM1, @Tom Stevens, @Perú FC, @La-Máquina)
    The maximum period for banning will be 24 hours from the opposite ban.

    * Third, after both bans are done, all visitors must publish in this thread their lineups and may add tactical indications about their ideas for the proposal.
    The maximum period to submit your lineups will be 48 hours after having established all the bans (of all matches).

    * Fourth, all locals must publish their lineups and may add their own tactical indications.
    The maximum period to submit your lineups will be 36 hours after the visitor's publication.

    * Fifth, in the next 24 hours any of the participants may add new indications, tactical clarifications, player analysis, etc. The thread will be open to everyone's opinion in any match.

    * Sixth, I will announce the opening of votes. These should be sent to me via PM. I'll send mine to my rival in this round, so you can confirm it in the vote count (I'll try to do it before everyone to avoid suspicion).

    Please, proceed all to ban...

    P.D.: Remember that you can no longer ban:

    Diez: Eusébio, Carlos Alberto
    heroearaucano: Müller, Kubala
    JJMM1: Andrade, Santamaría
    La-Máquina: Messi, Shevchenko
    msioux75: Baresi, Förster
    OT_CAPITANO: Pelé, Neeskens
    PDG1978: Ronaldo, Figo
    Perú FC: Romário, Maradona
    poetgooner: Platini, Matthäus
    thebigman: Cristiano Ronaldo, Moore
    tLB Odiseo: Gullit, van Basten
    Tom Stevens: Cruyff, Júnior
     
  2. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  3. tLB Odiseo

    tLB Odiseo Member

    Necaxa, Galatasaray, Real Madrid
    Dec 18, 2011
    México
    Club:
    NEC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I ban Zinedine Zidane @Diez
     
  4. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  5. OT_CAPITANO

    OT_CAPITANO Member

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Feb 16, 2020
  6. Tom Stevens

    Tom Stevens Member+

    Dec 12, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  7. La-Máquina

    La-Máquina BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 5, 2013
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I will ban Giacinto Facchetti. I don’t want him charging down my right wing...
     
  8. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    I guess I'll ban first, but if my ban doesn't change your tactics, that's ok.

    I'll ban Cafu.
     
  9. poetgooner

    poetgooner Member+

    Arsenal
    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'll ban Luis Monti please. Thank you.
     
  10. JJMM1

    JJMM1 Member

    Junior
    Colombia
    Feb 19, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I ban Beckenbauer. Good Luck!
     
  11. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
  12. heroearaucano

    heroearaucano Member

    Wanderers de Valparaíso
    Chile
    Jul 23, 2011
    Valparaíso, Chile
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Veto a Lilian THURAM
     
  13. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
  14. Diez

    Diez Member

    Universitario
    Peru
    Oct 26, 2019
  15. tLB Odiseo

    tLB Odiseo Member

    Necaxa, Galatasaray, Real Madrid
    Dec 18, 2011
    México
    Club:
    NEC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #15 tLB Odiseo, Mar 31, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2020
    Formation: 4-3-3
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    My team has a very good natural poise in all the lines. Two superb center-backs alongside two balanced full-backs in both attack and defense.

    Makéléle as usual, he will cover the whole pitch and two terrific midfielders of teammates, who posseses a superb playmaking skills, masterclass passing, complete knowledge to going to attack to scoring goals and support the attack to create clear chances, but also with solid defensive skills.




    My attack is an amazing machine very well connected with two side-forwards hugely versatile who possesed an outstanding technical ability and for dribbling skills and also Boniek and Gullit were noted for his creativity, vision and were enabled to create plays for his teammates. Those attributes combined witg physical presence, very fast players, and an extraordinary stamina to support the defensive line.

    Ruud Gullit is well placed as side-forward, in fact he can play in many positions/roles in the attack and midfield being world-class. He can do it perfectlys due he played many times on right-wing. He was world-class to run for the wing beating opponents for crossing thanks his huge speed, , dribbling, vision and passing, or also he could make the diagonal to score goals or centralize his game too.


    Finally, Marco van Basten, perhaps the most complete striker of all time. A player gifted with all the most remarkable abilitiies able for a striker, and supported by my midfield, the rest of the attack and the team, he will surely be the best player of the game, scoring at least one hat-trick.



     
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  16. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
  17. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Teamsheet for Match Day 3 fixture vs @Tom Stevens (away)
    1: Peter Shilton; 5: Laurent Blanc; 6: Alessandro Costacurta, 16: Fernando Hierro, 2: Jorginho; 14: Jean Tigana, 4: Patrick Vieira, 18: Michael Laudrup; 17: Luis Figo, 10: Ferenc Puskas; 9: Ronaldo
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    (I realise now Figo has picked up the wrong shirt, or someone needs to print a 1 on the back of it lol: I'll not do the diagram again as I'm not saving each line-up in the website but just using my main template and then cutting my diagrams out to save on my computer using the Snipping Tool!)

    Captain - Hierro
    Penalty Taker - Puskas
    Indirect free-kick and corner takers - 1st choice Figo, 2nd choice Puskas
    Direct free-kick takers - 1st choice Figo, 2nd choice Ronaldo

    Tactical approach
    I am setting the team up with a Zona Mista kind of formation, with Costacurta tucking in as a supplementary central defender mostly, and Puskas having the freedom to attack as the supporting forward from a left of centre position. Costacurta can still provide width when we build up attacks at times, and he will still keep an eye on any players trying to get down the outside, but he will be tasked with providing opposition to any player trying to cut in from the left of Tom's forward line, and also to Cruyff in whichever position/role he plays (whether it is as false 9 or not we are assuming he will roam between the attack and midfield). Blanc is the sweeper, and can step into midfield a bit with the ball but mainly aims to be available as the last line of defence other than Shilton. Hierro will have the tasks of keeping tabs on Cruyff's incursions too, and also opposing players in the inside right channel (from the perspective of Tom's players). The defenders can go to challenge Cruyff if they see an opportunity when he has his back to goal, to try and prevent him having a free turn with it (while being wary of his specialist Cruyff turns once he has the ball too), but are to mainly leave him to the midfielders if and when he drops deep. When he is in the midfield, Tigana can help close him down, but Vieira would be the one who looks to track him - to make tackles or at least kick the ball out of play when he can and otherwise try to follow him as he approaches our penalty area, and to get goal side and help block his path ideally.

    Jorginho is in essence the left back and will defend against the right sided attacker of Tom too, but can act as a marauding wing-back when feasible, and look to link up with midfielders/forwards by providing an outlet on the left, from where he can play crosses or passes towards team-mates. In general, though always being aware of Cruyff in particular, we will look to be positive and take the game to Tom's team with flowing attacks, often built up by combinations involving the midfield of Vieira and in particular Tigana and Laudrup. Ronaldo can do as he pleases in terms of choosing when to play on the last line of defence and when to come and receive the ball to run with it. Figo can come infield to influence the play and create opportunities, but is asked to use the right wing a lot and either influence Junior (if he plays at left back) to stay back (while still trying to dribble past him or make runs down the outside), or use the space left by him if he goes forward often. Our tactics in regard to closing down by our attackers remain similar to in the previous games in that they will be encouraged to do it to an extent, and to be clever in helping each other to do it. We will look also to not give Tom's midfielders a lot of time on the ball, and when we have it will look to have multiple players (Laudrup, but perhaps also Figo, Tigana, Ronaldo) running with or without the ball into the area behind his midfield at good speed to create chances and maybe induce fouls too. Puskas will be looking to pop up in various good attacking positions and use his skills and inventiveness to do the same (create chances or induce fouls in or around the box).
     
  18. OT_CAPITANO

    OT_CAPITANO Member

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Feb 16, 2020
    #18 OT_CAPITANO, Mar 31, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2020
    @La-Máquina

    For this match im going for a 5-3-2

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    Since im playing away the plan is to make a good and balanced team with a good defensive setup to nullify that offensive "Fantastic 4" my rival has going on. but also to have the offensive capabilities to get the much needed goals to win the match. that is why Nesta (which is my rivals best defender) is out of this match so that Klinsmann and Pele can make sure to bag a couple of goals.

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    Defense:

    Defensively my team will setup with a steady line of 5 with Krol as a sweeper covered by Cannavaro and Schnellinger and with Neeskens and Ze Roberto as wing-backs. Sammer will play in front of that defensive to cover any movement by Zico

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    Didi and Seedorf will help in the pressing and tracking back if necessary to help out when the side-backs come forward. like i said earlier the plan is the have a inter-web of defensive stability and a staggered defense to make sure my rival doesn't have any space to be an offensive threat

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    Midfield

    in Midfield Sammer will cover all the movements of Zico.... and Seedorf and Didi with the quality they have will make sure to carry the possession of the ball... my game-plan for this match is patience. make sure to have the possession of the ball, move it around, make my opponent tired, make his forwards desperate and search for the opportunity to score goals. players like Schnellinger, Krol and Cannavaro have an amazing ball playing technique so they can play out of the back with no problem. If Didi and Seedorf are being pressured players like Neeskens and Ze roberto who are midfielders at heart can give a step forward and help out with the possession.





    In those videos you can see and remember the quality Didi and Seedorf posses
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    Offense:

    While my rival may have great quality upfront i will make sure to exploit their weaknesses which is tracking back.... i put a lot of numbers out back to cover my defense but at the same time my team is well setup to put numbers upfront and if his attackers dont help with tracking back he is in a lot of problems

    My team attacking will look something like this

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    The plan is that Neeskens and Ze Roberto will take a step forward and help out in that midfield to continue possesion of the ball. Seedorf will become an extra attacker. And Pele and Klinsmann will have a run at that defense that without Nesta doesnt have that defensive leader to carry them.

    And if case of counter attacks Schnellinger-Krol-Cannavaro and Sammer are more then capable of holding off while the team tracks back

    This is my game plan for this match ill be waiting for @La-Máquina 's formation to see if i will have to make some extra commentary
     
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  19. heroearaucano

    heroearaucano Member

    Wanderers de Valparaíso
    Chile
    Jul 23, 2011
    Valparaíso, Chile
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #19 heroearaucano, Mar 31, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2020
    PLAN B 4-4-2 diagamond (==> 4-3-2-1)
    with classical 10
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    After the publication of my rival's team, I will explain my tactics.

    Player to follow! :

    Giuseppe Meazza > Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi.

    World Cups
    Giuseppe Meazza 2
    Cristiano Ronaldo 0
    Lionel Messi 0

    Best player in the world cup
    Giuseppe Meazza 2 (1934 1938)
    Cristiano Ronaldo 0
    Lionel Messi 0

    Participation in world cups
    Giuseppe Meazza 2
    Cristiano Ronaldo 4
    Lione Messi 4

    Best Player or Portugal: Eusebio.
    Best Player of Argentina: J. Manuel Moreno, Maradona and Di Stéfano.
    Best Player of Italy: GIUSEPPE MEAZZA!!!

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    ARTURO VIDAL: Polifuncional Stopper, Líbero, WingBack (Chile of Bielsa and Colo Colo 2006), DM, CM, OM, False 9, mediapunta, winger, wing!!!

    https://www.24horas.cl/deportes/fut...er-por-su-nueva-posicion-en-la-cancha-3968772

    https://tribuna.com/en/fcbarcelona/news/3570077/
    https://tribuna.com/en/fcbarcelona/news/3571598/
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  20. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    My tactic vs @thebigman
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    A 4-3-3, using Schiaffino as a false 9 (Milan years). In this scheme, Rummenigge and Leonidas will be a "de-facto" twin spearhead, able to roam between wings and cutting in the box, to exploit free spaces. I'm waiting to surprise my rivals, since they wouldn't have any forward to reference, being the three very mobiles.

    My midfield is dynamic and very skilled to control the game, with the extra help of Schiaffino. Behind them, the best back-4 of the draft, with Obdulio patrolling in front of them, with Mazurkiewicz at goal, who brings his great agility, positioning and air game to have a clean sheet.
     
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  21. heroearaucano

    heroearaucano Member

    Wanderers de Valparaíso
    Chile
    Jul 23, 2011
    Valparaíso, Chile
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #21 heroearaucano, Mar 31, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2020
    4-4-2 with defensive box to boxs (4-3-1-2 )
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    Vidal was starting WB in Colo Colo 2006 (Runners-up copa sudamericana 2006) and Chile of Bielsa (also external passerby). Today in Barcelona, he is successfully tested in the left and right wing position in champions and league.

    In my team Vidal and Breitner are defensive box to box covering the full potential of your zone of field (left or rigth).
     
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  22. Tom Stevens

    Tom Stevens Member+

    Dec 12, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    We are set up to exploit the weakness at fullback for the opponent and their lack of width.

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    Charles has the size, power and skill to demand the attention of both Hierro and Blanc who are both skilled but may lack the physicality to deal with him in 1v1 situations. Johnstone and Stoichkov will isolate on fullbacks which are both played out of position. To compound the opponents lack of width my fullbacks will bomb forward. Especially on PDGs right they will lack defensive width, and be dependent on Figo to track back and mark Junior. Cruyff will work back into the midfield with Modric and Ocwirk to dominate possession and then push forward into the spaces between midfield and defense. If Hierro steps up to mark him Cruyff will be isolated in space against a defender who lacks speed with three options in front of him and wingbacks breaking into space. With Figo forced to track back, and PDG's midfielders chasing ghosts, Laudrup, Puskas, and Ronaldo, the strength of PDG's team will be isolated. Vierchowod and van Dijk are two of the only defends with the type of size, speed, and defensive ability to hold up vs Ronaldo in space.
     
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  23. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
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    I am playing a 433 which can become a 5221 when we are countering as Koeman can drop in as a sweeper

    we are looking for space out wide to attack with blistering pace, Maldini was never k own to be quick and best will have him on ice skates

    Ronaldo will bring Zanetti inside allowing Cole to overlap and look for greaves and back post runners

    kroos is able to control tempo from deep and Koeman can find diagonal long. Balls

    iniesta is able to control the game high up and cause overloads with his control in congested areas then releasing the ball to an attacker

    Adams is my stopper, just as he was his whole career, an imperious cb with Moore covering

    Koeman can drop in when his narrow wide players come inside to try and overload my cbs

    Koeman is also able to man mark the false 9 he is employing

    as previous, we are looking at quick counters, a changhe in pace when an opening appears (iniesta Barca prime is best example) greaves is a mobile poacher, the highest scorer in English football history, able to receive deeper and play on the shoulder.

    pachin will employ a more defensive role than Cole, covering Leonidis and Maldini when he gets forward (not something he was renowned for

    we will put pressure on his deep midfielders as we can exploit them to create fast counters
     
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  24. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    To face @heroearaucano I go with a 4-3-3 system.

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    Captain: SCIREA
    Penalty Takers: MARADONA and RIVALDO
    Free-Kick Takers: MARADONA and RIVALDO
    Corner Takers: MARADONA and RIVALDO
    In front of Buffon the defense changed to a 4-men line with Scirea and Ramos as back pair. On the sides Sosa and Cabrini will play as solid closing full-backs in the defense, but with constant projection as wing-backs to provide width in the attack.

    In the midfield Pirri will play anchor/libero making the deployment for recovery and connecting the output from the defense, while Davids play as box-to-box supporting the mark and deploying his offensive capabilities. Then, it is time for Luis Suárez, the architect in the midfield for the creative playmaking and the explosion of his perceptive passing.


    In the attack Maradona and Rivaldo will play as forwards or attacking playmakers in a free-role to perform penetrations or open attacks for crossings, while also debuts Romário, enabled to create and offensive society with fantastic edges and enormous capacity for definition.

     
  25. Diez

    Diez Member

    Universitario
    Peru
    Oct 26, 2019
    My team:

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    In defense I have a line of 4 defenders all of a remarkable physical capacity, especially the laterals Briegel and Carlos Alberto.

    In the first line of midfield Pirlo and Rijkaard, who combine their defensive and creative qualities well, protect their defense and cleanly initiate attacks.

    Baggio completes the midfield in his version of trequartista, having skills of the highest level in dribbling, vision, fantasy, passing, intelligence as well as a great goalscoring contribution. The most "Maradonian" Italian.


    Roberto Baggio trequartista playmaker:




    Baggio magically assisting:




    Pirlo - Baggio connection:




    In the attack, Dzajic an infernal dribbler. On the left wing, exploiting his enormous ability to overcome rivals and break rival defensive lines with his enormous ability to dribble.


    Dzajic vs Vogts:




    Eusébio slightly leaning to Baggio's right as a second striker.




    And van Nistelrooy like fixed point in the area between the 2 central defenses looking for the spaces to finish the plays created by Baggio, Dzajic and Eusébio.


    What would be the displacement zone of Pirlo, Rijkaard, Baggio, Dzajic, Eusébio and van Nistelrooy:

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    ;)
     
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