All things Pulisic (king of the hockey assist, master of the Hershey header).

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  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    I don’t suggest going in there.
     
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  2. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    England
    Too late! :eek:

    :D
     
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  3. Kerry Dixon's Boots

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    Jun 6, 2006
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  4. appwrangler

    appwrangler Member

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    Dec 18, 2018
    For those not familiar with the term, “hockey assist” is popular with Americans when describing the pass-before-the-assist in basketball and soccer. Not to worry, we realize it’s a stupid “stat”. Just fun to use as a talking point, as a way of saying a player was involved. If you say “but it’s dumb!”, when has that ever stopped a fan’s commentary before? :)
     
  5. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
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    Oh that's nice. Maybe I should visit too? Diplomacy and 'hands across the ocean' and all of that.
     
  6. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    For old timers like me and clan you could scrap 90% of the 'stats' we have now, not just this one.

    Essentially, this is us...

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  7. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    OK! I'm gonna go with a 'no' on that one.
     
  8. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
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    Just don’t look into their eyes.. whatever you do
     
  9. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
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    #159 StamfordBridgeLions, Oct 21, 2019
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    Naughty, playing possum

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  10. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
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    Chelsea FC
    Pulisic gets £145,000-a-week wages and yes expectations on him to deliver are high, but Frank is viewing the long-term as the lad just turned 21.
     
  11. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
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    Chelsea FC
    Did we ever get a Matt Miazga thread? Still with us, but out on loan. Late drama in the Madejski Stadium where Matt Miazga, fit again following a few weeks troubled by injury, scored in the 97th minute to earn the Berkshire side a 1-0 win against Preston North End. He was subsequently booked for jumping into the stands to celebrate with supporters.
     
  12. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
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    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
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    Chelsea FC
    regarding the hockey assist, first off, it's hockey, they have use of it, let them have their own stats. who cares. second, the idea is to recognize a player that breaks lines and defenses to create scoring chances.

    the perfect example is this regard is the pass from Kova through to pulisic that broke open the chance for tammy that (holy crap watch the replay of yedlin busting back like he knew what would happen) was blocked. in soccer/football this is usually a through pass, and has it's own set of stats, and keeping track of someone that can complete a lot of through balls is HIGHLY useful in this game. take a team like city, if you think they aren't keeping track of the pass before the pass you are crazy. it's a HUGE part of peps game plan.

    if you can recognize that's its useful to keep track of completed through balls, then you'd understand the concept of the secondary assist, it's just a different perspective of it. in this game, it's widely regarded as through balls being useful for offensive movements, yet, it's not a stat tracked in other sports, so it's not as useful outside of this sport, likewise, for hockey, they deem it important to track secondary assists.

    in another context it would put an extra value on a long diagonal that sets a winger free to then cut back for a striker to tap in, one pass broke the defense. we just don't talk about it in the same terms.
     
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  13. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002

    What about me..I think I'd do rather well in there.....
     
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  14. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002

    Oh, I do see where you are coming from mate.
    I just like to wind a certain plonker up...he's like a starving mouse chasing a piece of cheese when I post things about Yanks/Pulisic...couldn't make it up..:D:D:D

    Anyway, to your point, in a serious way.
    That's a (long) way of looking at it okay, but for the most part managers that are not as cerebral as say a Guardiola or Klopp, somewhat still new to the game in England and still somewhat revolutionizing the game from the keeper on up, those things are without a doubt tracked and tracked every minute of every game.

    Traditionally, most of the old school lot would simply refer to him as "having made a difference"

    Now, don't scoff and make light of that, it's actually high praise and will guarantee you more playing time.

    On one hand, you have a long draft on the "hockey assist :D"...and on the other you simply say he made something happen.
     
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  15. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    BTW,,,whoever changed the thread title...that is simply hilarious.:D
     
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  16. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
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    The thread title is funny, I don't care who you are.

    I don't post a lot in other teams boards when I follow a yank, because most of our lads have some straight up obnoxious supporters that make the rest of us look bad. I have thoroughly enjoyed the banter about the hockey assist. I don't think stats other than W&L matter much to Frank.

    I have watched a lot of Pulisic and the few times he played where Lamps put him last time out, he has mostly looked like he did Saturday. Frank said he was a big part of why CFC won. He followed that up with there will be more to come. One of the things about youth is they can be inconsistent. Pulisic, Mount, Odoi, mixed in with in form contract year Willian could be pretty fun to watch. Tammy has been on a tear, but I liked Bats at BVB, and Giroud probably has few goals left in him, so CFC could be pretty good if Rudiger and N'golo can get a healthy run of games.

    I think Lamps is doing okay so far and seems to adapt pretty well as opposed to some who seem to be married to a particular system.


    oh and did I say I love the thread title change, I find it funny as f---.
     
  17. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
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    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
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    too true, perhaps it is to say there are some that try to give official stat credit to those who "made a difference".

    but yea, it's overthinking it in a certain way, i agree. we don't need to have those numbers officially reported as long as managers are "seeing" it and know X player has something "special about him" as it were.

    and to your point, i don't think anyone around here with how much we talk about the game would have a problem with saying something like "kovacic doesn't get a lot of goals or assists but he certainly helped control the second half of that game and provided some critical final third passing" etc. but then again, you would have some numbers to fight with when someone says "kovacic sucks he doesn't score or assist". but i mean, we're the crazy ones, we go on to message boards to literally pick apart the details of a sport.

    i did it again, i got all wordy.
     
  18. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    One of life's enduring mysteries....
     
  19. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002

    Wow...So, I took a look in there...WOW.

    Takes delusional to a whole new level.
     
  20. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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    It's Yanks Abroad. You know how that board is.
     
  21. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    There is a reason some of us yanks don’t go in there.

    And stay largely quiet in here.

    I enjoyed the last bit of discussion immensely!
     
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  22. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    We could go together?

    In fact, we could arrange a time and all the local posters here could ALL go over there as a team building exercise perhaps? A jolly boy's outing.
     
  23. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002

    We'd be like a crowd of people trying to yell louder than the band at a KISS concert.
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If you say so, young'un :eek:

    :giggle:
     
  25. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

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    Yes
     
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