All Star Game

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by ajbirch07, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. ajbirch07

    ajbirch07 Member

    Jan 31, 2008
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now I'm not a fan of all star games in any sport but I realize that its kind of an American sporting tradition to trot out the best players from the league and showcase them. With that being said however there needs to be some changes.I for one (if I was the Don) would decree that the All-Star game would go back to being East vs West.

    Sure the MLS All-Stars held their own from 05 through 08 when they won four straight but it didn't generate any buzz within the established media elite. Now flash back to the last two all star games against Manchester United, the MLS All Stars lost 5-2 and 4-0. Guys on Around the Horn and PTI discussed that the league must be really bad if not even the best players in the league could beat Manchester United. On the flip side if they would have won, the narrative would be along the lines of I hope an All Star team full of the best of the best could beat a European club. Basically the All-Star game in terms of showcasing MLS talent to a broader audience here in the US is a lose lose situation.

    That's why the MLS needs to go back to East vs West. This way all of the talent from the league is on the field playing against one another having a little bit of fun and who knows maybe they will throw some flair into the game instead of focusing on the final score. This is a better way to market the league IMO or if you think East vs West is stupid then do the MLS World vs MLS USA like they did one year or any combination but use MLS talent to be the showcase, not a big European club.
     
  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're going to have to cite a source on this one (at least for PTI). As I remember it Wilbon and Tony were very much "Hey, ManU is the best team in the world. This result is meaningless."
     
  3. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    ASG is a meaningless side show. Get rid of it.
    If MLS is at the level of depending on the extra $ from it, then...
     
  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand why they do it (play popular EPL team). If I were the Don I would get rid of it and then probably get fired right after :p.

    What I would like to see for personal reasons is an all star game between MLS all-stars and say all stars from a combined Scandinavian squad or a Japan all stars (or China or Korea). But I have a feeling very few in the USA or the other countries would care about that game.
     
  7. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, we are at that level, so finish your sentence
     
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  8. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    How much do they even make after paying off the giant club?
     
  9. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Answer the initial question
     
  10. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    'pathetic' there you go.
     
  11. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And do you have a solution to that issue?
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will guess.

    I would agree with DCU, but I understand why that is not going to happen.
     
  13. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are at the point in the League's history where we need that ridiculous side-show. Simply getting rid of it will, ispo facto, have serious negative consequences to the League.

    You just can't say "get rid of it". You need to replace the things we get from it (international exposure, revenue, etc).
     
  14. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Step 1 - Get rid of the ALL Star game
    Step 2 - ????
    Step 3 - Profits.

    Come on I did 2/3 of the work, someone else do the rest. :p
     
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  15. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    'international exposure' of best of the best MLS getting f7kced by a single club that is not even serious about it during a mid week?
     
  16. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're not dumb enough to think that that's an accurate portrayal of the whole of the ASG experiment
     
  17. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, he is.
     
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  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My solution

    3 teams 1 pitch (I wanted 4 but could not find a picture)

    All-Stars
    Chelsea
    AC Milan

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have you ever played triangle soccer? It's awesome! You're not scored on how many goals you score, but how few you give up. So like, two teams are always competing against 1 but then it makes sense to change alliances and...oh it's so fun
     
  20. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder how much it actually brings in. I haven't watched an NFL all star game in probably over a decade, I haven't watched an MLB all star game in about as long (even though they tried to add meaning to it, the fools...), and I'm not interested in watching the best of our entire league struggle against some English side, and worse, often (or always?) lose.

    I'm sure there are a lot of people who love it, but I don't see the point.
     
  21. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I spoke way too soon. I could definitely get into this!!
     
  22. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The game in Houston made truck loads of money, both for the Dynamo and the league. Money can certainly be had if they want, but I don't think they do it for the up-front cash. The exposer in the press, here and abroad, is worth more.

    Remember, right now it is more important to get our name out there than almost anything else. Once people know we exist, know what we are about, we can hook 'em.

    Besides, there is a certain cache about saying "Hey, we are playing the UEFA Champions League Winners! Come check us out!" that can't be bought with money.
     
  23. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And that's fair enough. I suppose if the funds and attention are actually getting to the league, then it's worth paying attention to :)
     
  24. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Do you have some source? How much net they take in after all the expense?
    Again exposure? Most people show up to see the Euro club, and they witness MLS Best gets crushed and looks crap. Nice image building up. Hey we exist and we suck!
     
  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You do realize that the All-Stars actually have a winning record when playing a foreign team, right? FIFA would record it as 5-1-2 (though you could say 5-3 if you wanted to count the PK loss to Everton). Only the last two years, when playing Man U, have the All-Stars actually lost. Call me crazy, but I don't find losing to one of the top couple teams in the world over the last 20 years or so a stain on the reputation.
     

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