All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

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  1. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
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    Brazil
    Historia por hacer

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  2. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Wait, didn't his goal constitute as a dribble?
     
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  3. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    No, but arguing with FIFA press in the tunnel did..
     
  4. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    You know the fake stats are coming fast and full of BS as Vini makes his way to the awards stage this tournament.
     
  5. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    The stats being posted here are low-level descriptive "counting" stats for immediate fan and betting consumption. They have 0 inferential value. They are basically garbage. Other descriptive rating systems such as Sofascore gave Vini an 8.0 (the highest rating in the match). Metrics based on advanced inferential modeling showed that Vini provided the highest net positive contribution on the pitch. https://www.sofascore.com/news/brazil-1-1-morocco-vinicius-jr-sofascore-rating-8
     
  6. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Come on, it's Vin, the same ones will attack him no matter what, nothing new there, useless, low IQ on and off the pitch, blah blah blah, he'll have his bad days and his good ones like everyone else out there playing, so far Lamine ( well the whole of Spain actually), Arda, Fede all muddling their way through the first games, let's see how the other "capable" players perform in the upcoming games.......
     
  7. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Also Sofascore btw :ROFLMAO:

    Whatever way the cultists twist the facts, Sofascore's Fierro Rocher-infused non-linear cosmic intergalactic advanced NASA-based propulsion modelling player rating metric is grade-A cow sh!t..

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  8. boeder

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  9. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    He has the premium membership.
     
  10. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    While I agree with you to a certain extent, the article says he's the focal point and total focus of the team offensively then praises his total number of carries. That's a natural byproduct of the concept.


    I truly believe if the person wouldn't be as controversial, Vini would be universally appreciated. There's going to be a lot of Brazil hate watching going on which is very unusual considering that this team was the one team everybody in the sport liked.

    The German broadcast mentioned it right away, you either like his attitude or hate it depending on what team you support, but on both sides you have to realize That this is a really really good player and not just a headache/cheat.
     
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  11. Doc_Exec

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    Jul 7, 2004
    I agree with what you are saying. He is a polarizing personality. My goal with posting that Sofascore link was simply to point out how flawed and misleading it is to rely on basic counting stats. While this dude is daftly cherry-picking counting data to try to discredit Vini, Sofascore used that exact same descriptive data source to award him a match-high rating of 8.0. These superficial counting metrics lack structural context and mean absolutely nothing. When evaluated through proper inferential modeling, quantifying Vini’s low-probability goal execution, threat creation, and off-the-ball defensive action, he was clearly revealed as the match's most impactful performer.
     
  12. petros93

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    May 27, 2017
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    Everybody complains that the sport has become boring and there's not talented player anymore just runners and players that are like robots on the field. And then Vini gets made fun off for dribbling three players and trying to rainbow the ball past the fourth. I mean I get it, people dislike how he complains etc, but he's probably the only exciting player to watch right now and has been for quite a while.

    That's why I like him, plus I love his story how he came from Brazil at a young age, started playing with us on Ronaldo's position right after he left and managed to become world class.
     
  13. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Quite literally the only one performing well for NT


     
  14. robertocarlos3

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    Jan 9, 2012
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    You’re not serious about this. he had a massive goal and some nice touches, but Jude and especially mbappe have contributed to their teams way more than Vinny.
    he should learn from mbappe what is mean to be a leader of a team.
     
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  15. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    I don't think that is the issue with Vini. Repeatedly trying and failing is ok. It happens.

    It's just there are games that he repeatedly chooses the worst option it becomes a frustrating watch.
     
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  16. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Yeah I don’t mind Vini being creative and electric. Actually, I’ll always say it, when he is on, he is number 1 player to watch for me (with Olise and Diaz)

    There are other aspects to criticize, but this isn’t one of them for me at least
     
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  17. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Oh I meant player representing Brazilian NT from top 5 leagues
    Jude is cooking for sure
     
  18. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    One game played shouldn't lead to extreme statements in either direction.

    Vini, or any player for that matter, might score 3 in the next one, or get sent off.
     
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  19. robertocarlos3

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    Jan 9, 2012
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    I’m rooting for vini to be WC pichichi. Anything that gets his confidence back is good for our team and club.
     
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  20. fierro

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    Jan 30, 2007
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    Vini got his toughest game out of the way with a goal and a point. Safe to say he's on to the knockout rounds still in contention for all individual and team trophies.


    I'm looking forward to the France Norway game, really feel like someone's gonna get punched in the face and I don't think Tchoumeni is gonna be the one delivering the knockout punch this time around.
     
  21. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    He doesnt have a problem with confidence. If anything its the opposite. Him becoming pichichi would be a disaster for us. Means we give him that insane contract, and his ego expands even further and he goes solo mode every time, while fighting with every fan and opponent out there that looks at him in a way that he deems not worthy of a WC pichichi winner.
     
  22. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    So the ideal scenario is that our star winger underperforms for Brazil because you're worried he might become too successful?

    Somehow every Vini achievement gets reframed into a future problem. If he struggles, he's hurting the team. If he wins the golden boot, that's somehow hurting the team too...lol
     
  23. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    Yes the ideal scenario is whatever scenario that leads to him leaving this team. I couldnt give a shit if he becomes successful for Brazil.
     
  24. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Cool, that's at least more honest than pretending it's about contracts/confidence or team building. You simply don't like the player and want him gone. Everything else is just an attempt to disguise that.
     
  25. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I don't think anybody is sitting down to watch him at the world cup to make a decision on what he thinks about him. Just years and years on tape. You either like what you see or don't. Just don't think a collapse or triumph changes much.
     

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