All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    I think he will sign for either one of the Oil Clubs or move to KSA. He's won everything in Europe and like other Brazilians they will follow the money at the expense of their careers and/or legacy.
     
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  2. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    What can the club do? You can't force him to sign and you can't force him to sign elsewhere. The only step to take is to sign a replacement this transfer window. He risks not getting good offers if he's not playing regularly next season.

    Maybe that's why Perez was so desperate for Alvarez. He knows it puts pressure on Vini to resign or accept a transfer offer if he's not a regular starter.
     
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  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    I still think it's best practice to use every single minute of endproduct out of the money that you're investing into an asset.

    On the other hand, no more favors, handouts, spontaneous vacations and so on. Keep it business.
     
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  4. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    If you want to force Vinicius out leak the information that Mourinhos prefered front 3 for next season is

    The dictator on the left,Jude false 9 and Endrick on the right

    On paper it actually looks balanced and everybody plays in his best position,however if you continue to say that Vinni and the dictator are the best,they are your attack and the coach must figure it out...he is not renewing and is not worried about his starting spot
     
  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    You'll definitely do your coach a favor by communicating that he has favorites before he even had the opportunity to work with the players for a single minute.
     
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  6. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Which clubs?
     
  7. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    PSG and other oil clubs. KSA

    I read that Arsenal are interested too, not sure what they would offer or if even he'd entertain that
     
  8. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    he’s not going to psg. City? They dont need him. Saudi isn’t on the table anymore (if it was) they have been scaling back their spending on sport.

    I don’t see many landing spots for him. He’s going to wind down the contract and find out no one values him like his management team does, he then gets his signing bonus from RM and gets a 5 year deal at 20 we’re offering.

    the only chance I see is Chelsea (Xabi gets sacked) or possibly United, but very unlikely.
     
  9. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Arsenal could be an option, the will be desperately looking to bolster their attack. Liverpool maybe if Gakpo leaves which is likely.

    Al Hilal (Saudi) could potentially make an offer under the new private ownership of Prince Al Waleed.
     
  10. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Junior has 15 champions. They want to win the trophy.

    Winning the EPL and reaching the CL final bloated Arsenal's bank accounts..they need firepower upfront because Gyokeres, Saka and Havertz ain't cutting it..
     
  11. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Doubt Arsenal will want to change their wage structure like that. Only Haaland and Mbappe earns 30 ME nett package/300 M gross over five years.
     
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  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    For the time being I find all that hard to imagine. I still think his priority is to stay in Madrid, he's most likely trying to get the most.
     
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  13. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    I agree, I think his management team is trying desperately to find other suitors to drive up the price and is coming up empty.

    I think it’s going to be a (extension) signing bonus and 20m net or something close to it. Even if he has a great WC there is too much baggage and history of Brazilians who flame out after age 26 to warrant any other club to come in and offer him the big wages and bonus he thinks he deserves.

    We’re stuck with the Mbappe/Vinny combo for the next 5 years or so.
     
  14. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    I think the Neymar experience salted the earth for Vinny in Saudi.
     
  15. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Neymar played like 6 games for Al Hilal but earned $250m in wages, bonuses and ad royalties. Not a bad deal.

    Neymar's excursion was hampered by knee injuries.
     
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  16. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Neymar stopped taking football seriously after moving to PSG, other than every two years playing for Brazil.

    I’m not saying Vinny is that level, but his last two years have been atrocious in regards to working for the team. Hes more concerned with rainbow flicks, nutmegs, and headless chicken dribbles. Very similar to Neymar.
     
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  17. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    If I was a betting man, Vini is more a Robinho than a Cafu.

    I think he has already peaked.
     
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  18. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    A long time ago, I posted here that Vinny was Robinho 2.0. Clearly his peak was higher than his, but very similar in many ways.
     
  19. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He peaked 23/24 which is why a €30 or even €25m contract now would be a bad investment by the club and I don't think they are oblivious to this..
     
  20. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    This. Arsenal is linked but I feel he may not replicate his Real form elsewhere. Don't know how to write this without sounding offensive to Brazilians but we have seen a trend of players peaking and winning everything then relaxing or looking for a payout. Vini is still popular and will be relevant for a while. He need not stay at Madrid or produce value too much wherever he goes. May be wrong.
     
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  21. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think he's replicating it at RM either.

    Junior will make a fine addition to Arsenal: leader, glue, tender soul, team player, beach ball winner, 15 champions and his cult won't have learn a new language..
     
  22. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    In all honesty, I haven't seen evidence that suggests Vini is out there relaxing and looking for a payout. His (alleged) issues have never been about putting in the work.
     
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  23. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I watch some of the Brazil NT friendly games.
    Even in the highlights you can see complaining at least 4-5 times in a game to his team mates for not passing the ball to him, even though he’s not the best option.
    I don’t understand this kind of behavior. and it seems the media is also looking for this behavior from him
     
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  24. laundromat

    laundromat Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    There's a big difference between him peaking and him being a Robinho. If he continues last season's output for the next 4-5 years then we're talking about one of the best wingers of all time. Yep.

    He's not very injury prone either so for those that don't enjoy watching the guy, you better hope he gets a fat contract elsewhere.
     
  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yeah, so far he's made out of rubber, and he's never out of shape. The idea that there's going to dramatically decline is based on speculation.

    He's not going to slow down any time soon, but I don't think he's going to change in a significant way so what you're looking at is a player that wants to be a leader but isn't qualified for it but is really good regardless.

    His antics are impossible to tolerate, but unless something dramatic happens he's not going to be a wreck.
     

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