All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

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  1. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Goals produced by Vinicius in the last 5 seasons with Real Madrid.

    Does not include penalties provoked as assists like Transfermarkt does.

    2021/2022: 38, one G/A every 113 minutes
    2022/2023: 41, one G/A every 116 minutes
    2023/2024: 34, one G/A every 91 minutes
    2024/2025: 39, one G/A every 119 minutes
    2025/2026: 32, one G/A every 122 minutes
     
  2. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    So basically he's been on a steady decline since Rodri took his Balon D'Or.

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  3. 4x4s

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    He's the face of the team and the club, for better or worse.
     
  4. Hendrix22

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    I am one longevity trivia random comparison stats post by Lyra away from being fully convinced Vinicius is the GOAT. Effort pays off guys.
     
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  5. 4x4s

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    Did you know that Vini has played more games, been around for more years, and won more trophies than Xabi Alonso in a Madrid shirt?

    I was curious how his legacy at the club matches up with a lot of the younger players, and if we're supposed to call him a club legend (he isn't) then so are they (they aren't either).
     
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  6. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    He did say GOAT.

    So that would be CR7. The Xabi comparison is just wierd.
     
  7. 4x4s

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    I find it very appropriate because the tone was "how dare they not respect a club legend?" but Xabi isn't, wasn't and will not be.

    These players are perfectly capable of performing well with an excellent coach. If you want to keep a guy around for 5 to 7 years good luck, a relatively successful patch in Barcelona or Madrid is 2,5 years.
     
  8. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    It's not ok to act like a punk in front of your coach, full stop. This isn't about who could piss the highest.

    This particular setup of players with Mbappe as one of the centerpieces hasn't proven jack.
     
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  9. 4x4s

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    As I said at another thread, he's being allowed/told to be this way by the people that pay him.
     
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  10. saadomar

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    Thus the state of affairs at this club. I am fully convinced Real Madrid need to sell one of Vini/Mbappe to return to being a trophy winning team. With those two entirely playing AGAINST each other, this will never work.
     
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  11. Hendrix22

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    Thats great and all, except Xabi also won (and experienced) much more outside of Madrid too at various different levels (including as a manager), making him a more universally/comprehensively accomplished figure. On top of all that, he was the manager. Saying its ok for Vinicius to shoo off Xabi because "he won more" is ridiculous.
     
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  12. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Complaining that nobody is passing to him :ROFLMAO:

    In the Betis home game he was complaining that Gonzalo [who scored a hattrick] was dribbling and not passing to him

    What a baby
     
  13. Ssr9

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    I'd sell Vini for anything above 80m this summer.

    It's time to move on. He's done enough. Signing Vini was a great deal. Some big trophies, commercial asset etc...

    We can move on now knowing the Vini story was a net positive overall.

    If we keep him and it keeps going like this......not good.
     
  14. Seoul Villan

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    Feb 16, 2011
    We’d be lucky to get 50m for him right now. The only two possible landing spots are Chelsea and United. I don’t think a deal gets done unless Vinny gets a massive wage increase and sign on.
     
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  15. robertocarlos3

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    He wing going no where. Not as long as perez is around.
     
  16. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    The club is offering €20m
    Junior and Roc Nation want €30m

    Unless either make a significant compromise, he could be closer to an exit on a free.

    Junior's oppressor left 5 months ago. Why hasn't he renewed?
     
  17. 4x4s

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    I didn't say anything about anything being OK. It's that the legend tag is applied very liberally right now and we need to reel it in a bit.
     
  18. pramod

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    If you watch this video, you can clearly see that Vinijr defended and recovered the ball, and Bellingham passed it to Endrick, who scored in two touches. However, people are constantly complaining that Vinijr doesn't defend well; the issue is that everyone on the team should be responsible for defending, but it appears that Xabi took an exception with Mbappe, and Vinijr has a problem with it because the majority of Mbappe's goals came from Vinijr's assists. As a result, we have a broken team and hope we shouldn't have hired Xabi in the first place.

    This forum seems to be more anti-Vini than Madridrido, in my opinion. In a similar vein, people from a certain nation prefer Gonzalo to Endrick. However, those are covering their faces following his performance with Lyon.
     
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  19. pramod

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    The solution is that you might have to lose them for free or renew on his terms. Once squad politics are resolved by the next coach, you will have the old Vinijr back, but I hope he leaves because people would realize that finding a replacement would be expensive. Alternatively, we might have to work with mediocre talent like Gonzalo.
     
  20. pramod

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    It appears that Xabi is a good person, but we have too many bad players who abruptly turned bad after Carlos left, so that also looks ridiculous. Xabi has a good squad upgrade but accomplished much less than Carlos. We also have more disgrundled players in Xabi's squad, such as Vinijr one month, Fede the next, and Bellingham the following month. is that not a red alert
     
  21. pramod

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    #14071 pramod, Apr 28, 2026
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    Since Rodri stole the Ballon d'Or from Vinijr, rodri decline is far more likely than Vinijr's. he won because of the corruption of the majority of the Spanish Federation and League.
     
  22. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    And yet happy players didn't lead to better results.
     
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  23. 4x4s

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    So if we see a picture of a Real Madrid player holding a cigarette, does that make him a chainsmoker? Because practically every player on the roster has an odd interception or initiated counter on his stat sheet, but then again, just because the club is incapable of scouting for players that do what is required, the requirement becomes a constant demand for change for the players.

    If you want a race horse to carry your bags up the hill, sell it and buy a donkey. If you want your donkey to win the derby, sell it and buy a race horse.

    Vinicius is a diva. You either live with it, in both good and bad or you move on. Enough "actually, if you look at it closely" when the entire football world knows what he does well and doesn't.
     
  24. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    The club should also ask themselves, for as talented as Vini is, he is also one of the most influential and most inconsistent player we have. And that has a huge impact on the team's overall performances.

    As a club, distractions aside, do you want to live and die with that inconsistency as a team?
     
  25. saadomar

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    #14075 saadomar, Apr 28, 2026
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    Especially if Vini has a terrible world cup. His value continues to precipitously nosedive. Not only has he been getting worse by the day since the Ballon D'Or snub (with which he clearly was obsessed), He has accomplished nothing with Brazil, and Florentino has a really big soft spot for World Cup top performers. He went after Zidane, R9, Kroos, James, and Mbappe even more zealously because of the major impact they had at world cups. Vini must be sold this summer because renewing him would be the biggest mistake they can possibly make for the future of this club. He is becoming too toxic and his terrible attitude is becoming infectious in this squad. With no good leadership to anchor this team, it will only get worse.

    I say: sell him to the highest bidder no matter the price. Sometimes you have to cut your losses. Cull the herd before the whole flock becomes unsalvageable. Move on Camavinga and Dean Huijsen while he's at it. Camavinga has been terrible for a while and Dean is a Bournemouth level player that is way out of his depth.
     

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