All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    Dry humping the corner flag is a bit over the top for me, but it doesn't justify racism.

    Hope the clown who insulted Vini is punished.

    And of course, the goal was world class.
     
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  2. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    I doubt it. I would like to believe Vinicius because of the seriousness of the topic (makes it less likely to accuse someone randomly), but he hasnt been exactly treating it that way. At the same time he is known to be narcisistic and thinking everyone is out to get him. Maybe he misheard or misinterpret something. I dont want to fall to tribalism confirmation bias right away. There was a shot of Prestiani talking to Barreiro and it looked to me like hes telling him Vini got it wrong and the guy looked like he believed him. I dont know, nobody does. Either way always drama, cant even celebrate a great goal without some shananigans.
     
  3. Forcamadrid2

    Forcamadrid2 Member

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  4. petros93

    petros93 Member+

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    May 27, 2017
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    You are an idiot. No need to follow up. You can just think that I'm an emotional social justice warrior or whatever you tell yourself to justify how you think. But that doesn't make you less of a moron.
     
  5. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    That being said its ridiculous that football fans in stadiums are basically there to unleash their frustrations and theyre not even trying to act like normal humans. Our player got hit by a bottle ffs absolute neandarthals
     
  6. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Youre not even an emotional sjw, youre just taking the side of the player you like from the team you support. Its normal. But saying someone is guilty of racism without conclusive evidence and calling everyone who expects that idiots complicit in racism is a bit too much
     
  7. petros93

    petros93 Member+

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    No I wouldn't. The same video happens and it's one of our players doing exactly what that guy did today and I want him out. I don't care about the team or the player when it comes to something like that.
     
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  8. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

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    If he did it I would want him out too.But he says he said maricon. and Vinicius is a hothead narcissist si not exactlycredible. Im sure he believes the guy called him that but I take Mourinhos side here.

    You dont make a verdict based on that video. Youre not in that guys head.
     
  9. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
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    Why did he cover his mouth then?
     
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  10. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    I dont know, everybody covers their mouths all the time when they talk. Maybe their breath smells.

    He might have said it, who knows. But I dont know the guys personality like I know Vini. Maybe if I did I would have been more convinced. But just because hes Argentinian is not enough for me
     
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  11. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Yea. This Prestianni clown is guilty.

    Mbappe said he heard him call Vini "Monkey" 5 times. Cama who was very near Vini and Prestianni also confirmed the racist slur.

     
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  12. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: He covered his mouth to say brother
     
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  13. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    He most likely said the M word. But unless there is solid evidence or admission, punishment in this case would be baseless and unlawful.
     
  14. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
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    List of almost every racial abuse incident against Vinicius Jr.

    2021

    • Oct 24 - Camp Nou (Barcelona): Fans recorded shouting "Macaco" (Monkey) at him near the touchline. (Case shelved by prosecutor).
    2022

    • Mar 14 - Son Moix (Mallorca): First major recording of fans making monkey noises at him.

    • Sep 18 - Metropolitano (Atletico Madrid): Hundreds of fans chanted "You are a monkey, Vinicius you are a monkey" outside the stadium before the derby.

    • Dec 30 - José Zorrilla (Valladolid): Fans made monkey sounds and hurled insults as he walked past them after being substituted. (5 fans later convicted).
    2023

    • Jan 26 - Madrid: Atletico ultras hung a dark-skinned effigy wearing Vini’s shirt from a bridge with a banner "Madrid Hates Real". (4 men convicted).

    • Feb 5 - Son Moix (Mallorca): Fan filmed screaming "Vinicius, monkey!" and "Go pick bananas." (Fan handed suspended prison sentence).

    • Feb 18 - El Sadar (Osasuna): During a minute of silence for earthquake victims, a fan screamed "Vinicius, son of a b*tch". Later: "Vinicius Die" chants.

    • Mar 5 - Benito Villamarín (Betis): "Monkey" insults shouted from the stands.

    • Mar 19 - Camp Nou (Barcelona): Chants of "Vinicius, Die!" heard in the stadium.

    • May 21 - Mestalla (Valencia): The breaking point. Whole sections chanted "Mono".
      • A Brazilian fan (Anna Anjos) recorded herself being harassed in the stands; her video clearly shows a woman and a small child on her lap calling Vinicius "Mono" (Monkey).
    • Oct 21 - Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán (Sevilla): Fan ejected for monkey gestures.
      • Note: Vinicius later confirmed he saw a video of a child also making racist gestures at this game.
    • Oct 28 - Montjuïc (Barcelona): Fan recorded calling him "Black sht" (Negro de merda).
    2024

    • Feb 1 - Coliseum (Getafe): Fans chanted "Vinicius is a monkey" before the team bus arrived and during the game.

    • Feb 18 - Vallecas (Rayo Vallecano): A minor made racist insults from the stands. (Identified and apologized in Nov 2024).

    • Mar 2 - Mestalla (Valencia): In his return, a video surfaced of a child in the stands shouting "Mono".

    • Mar 13 - Metropolitano (Atletico Madrid): Before a UCL game vs Inter (Vini was not even playing), fans chanted "Ale, Ale, Ale, Vinicius Chimpanzee".

    • Mar 14 - Montjuïc (Barcelona): Before a UCL game vs Napoli, fans chanted "Die, Vinicius".
    2025
    May 21 - Valladolid Verdict:
    Event: Court sentenced 5 fans to prison (suspended) for the Dec 2022 abuse. First group conviction.

    June 16 - Effigy Verdict:
    Event: Court sentenced 4 men to prison (15 to 22 months) for hanging the doll in Jan 2023.

    Aug 2025 - La Liga General:
    Note: While specific mass chanting decreased due to prison sentences, reports of isolated insults continued, but perpetrators were ejected more quickly by security.

    2026 (Tonight)
    Feb 17 - Benfica fans at their stadium racially abused Vinicius Jr. and also Benfica player Gianluca Prestianni called him "mono" (monkey).
     
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  15. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    #13665 HZinho, Feb 18, 2026
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2026
    What happened yesterday was another dark moment in football. It just doesn't end.

    Look, everyone that might be thinking "he probably misheard it", don't foot yourselves. Regardless of the 'volume' in the stadium, these players can hear perfectly well what is said to them, particularly when they're that close to each other. The fact that Vini reacted so quickly and instinctively to what that Argentine piece of sh*t (he is one, regardless of yesterday's antics – he is always behaving like one every time I see him) said, makes it very hard to believe (for me it's even certain, but hey..) that he wasn't called a racial slur.

    At the moment, the burden of proof is just almost impossible to satisfy for a potential victim, and the alleged act is almost impossible to punish by a ref. It'll remain hearsay, and the biggest piece of sh*t will always deny what he said. UEFA should just introduce mics, enforce strictly and be done with this stuff. But we all know they won't.
     
  16. petros93

    petros93 Member+

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    May 27, 2017
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    That basically proves that it's his fault.
     
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  17. Ssr9

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    Mali
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    100 percent with Vini on this! Proud of our players reaction as well. This was team building moment!

    When you’re a racist, it’s always hanging right below the surface. All it takes is a person of color annoying you a little, and it comes out.

    Vini can be an annoying guy lol…so he brings out the racism in A LOT of people.

    Baila Vini!
     
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  18. MiamiNative0722

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    Heartbreaking to see Vini's face the moment he realizes what Prestianni is saying
     
  19. petros93

    petros93 Member+

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    May 27, 2017
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    Also the explanation that he called him maricon... "Look guys I can explain. I'm a homophobe not a f*cking racist. We're all good right?"

    If one of our players did that and our club protected him like benfica is doing, I really don't think I could move on and keep supporting the club.
     
  20. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    Maybe this is just my thing, but covering your mouth with your hand vs. covering your mouth by pulling up your shirt just feels more dubious. Like, the former might feel like an involuntary reflex if you're trying to tell someone something privately, there's an extra step involved to pull up your shirt to say something.
     
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  21. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    There is nothing baseless or unlawful about punishing a player if you have multiple accounts of the same version. I don't need video evidence of him actually saying it to punish it. That's at least if UEFA is a serious organization. That's just on the player's side.

    The club itself should receive a hefty penalty. Racist gestures and objects thrown on the pitch, that's all on video.
     
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  22. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    I understand the powerlessness which is why I am so defensive about it.
     
  23. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    In that extended video, you can see he has a lot to say without covering his mouth but only chose to cover it in certain instances.
     
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  24. undertow

    undertow Member

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    Nov 22, 2020
    You are a fuking disgrace. An embarrassment. You should delete this post.
     
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  25. undertow

    undertow Member

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    Spain
    Nov 22, 2020
    - He receives monkey chants from individuals in the crowd (watch the videos behind goal)
    - He gets called a monkey by another footballer. Corroborated by other players.
    - He gets hit by bottles from the crowd.
    - In the past he has been racially abused 16 times. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/sto...l-madrid-laliga-racial-abuse-valencia-21-2023

    And then you have @Hendrix22 on this thread victim blaming. Enough.

    We have fought wars against racism where people have died and we will continue to fight wars against racism. This is not a subject to fuk around with.
     
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