Gotta love how this passive ambigous format is meant to obfuscate the facts. Who specifically did not buy in the coach's vision? Who specifically was the biggest contributor to football going stale, respective to their role, reputation and responsibility in the team? The answer of both questions is Vinicius. You are honestly stooping to pathetic levels to spin this situation. The coach lost control and results slipped because one player, who happens to be the 2nd best on the squad and one of the most famous and influential ones, disrespected him, refused to cooperate, led a mutiny and ultimately ran him off. No matter how much you twist it that will always remain a fact.
People forget the socios are the keepers of this club. And as "stockholders" they have the right to express themselves whenever they feel the effort is lacking, or below standards from their "employees". It has been that way ever since I can remember.
Lol, this thread... It almost makes me want to click the cursed button, just to see what she is on about this time. But then I remember life is too short to waste precious time on nutcases.
Right now the forum is divided in 3 groups the Vini is the devil group the Vini is a blameless victim group and most of us who think a lot of his flaws are overdramatized but he’s certainly not blameless in his behavior and overall form for the season Problem is the that even if you are on the third group, the second group will bunch you up with group one because criticism is not allowed even though is well deserved
Because the problem is the person not the player, even if people won't admit so. For me, I just don't like what the character represents. I can totally live with the player. I imagine Barca fans were in the same position with somebody like Dani Alves who in his day was a game wrecking player.
Ha..It's actually two. A handful of us acknowledge Vinicius can be complicated but credit his previous work and believe the fault is no primarily his own. These people are castigated because they aren't joining the fiesta of bashing him for every and anything while reducing his performances and previous accomplishments. Then rest are you guys. So predictable. This guy performed amazingly yet look at the negative responses and how quickly the agendas are either trying to twist or reduce accomplishments. Then the most unstable ones will declare it's about personality while they're online acting no differently than Vinicius on the pitch. It's wild levels of bi-polar or at best outright hypocrisy and mainly from people who care more about confirming their bias and being right then they ever have about Madrid. These people are bitter about a good result. Lol
I think most people gave him props for the Clasico final and the last matc vs Monaco only a handful attack him regardless and a few defend him regardless
I don’t think I’ve ever attacked either side. For all the back and forth with Lyra, I’ve never attacked her in any way. I just want to see her and undertrow disagree because that would be popcorn level stuff with the way they post lol
You don't think those men on here more emotional than Vinicius which Lyra has been battering for weeks wouldn't as well provide popcorn level entertainment if you equally held them to account so they could "divide and conquer themselves" as well?
You’re doing that courtroom roleplay because it makes the hate feel objective.“who specifically” like you’ve got CCTV footage of tactical buy in. You don’t actually know who didn’t buy in. You want one name so the story stays simple and you can feel righteous, so naturally you pick Vini, because he’s the easiest villain for this board’s daily hobby. Predictable buildup, dead midfield progression, inconsistent support around the wings, idiotic subs from coach, soft defense. Finishing swung, confidence dipped, then the pressure cooker started whistling at minute one. So if your entire diagnosis is “answer to it is vini” you’re just feeding an obsession. This coming from the guy who rates random belgian winger over Vini is like getting lectured on cuisine by someone who eats crayons. Sit down. Writing a soap plot so you can feel certain now... A mutiny with what? secret meetings at Valdebebas and a coup banner in the tunnel? Perez sacks coaches when control slips and results are shaky, that’s the club’s operating system. He doesn’t need one guy to Jedi mind trick him. Stop turning a managerial failure into a morality tale. That's their cute attempt at rewriting the last few weeks like it was a polite book club discussion. @J-Mezzy please rewind the tape before you pretend it was all balanced debate. This board has been a daily crime scene for weeks. every miscontrol a ccharacter indictment, every eyebrow raise a toxic attitude, every loss pinned on 1 dude before the post match whistle even faded. I dont defend the bad run. Vini has to sort his shit out, I agree. But I also dont stand the character assassination and apocalypse takes. Funny how that suddenly gets memoryholed once the football slaps the narrative around.
I wouldn't call anyone engaging with Lyra as more emotional by mile. Even by post count and effort alone, it isn't even in the same galaxy.
Arcane acts like post count is a cardiogram for “emotion” LOL . Mate, you melt down in tight little bursts of emojis, I just write in full sentences. Different formats, same salt.
🚨 OFFICIAL: Vini Jr. nominated for UCL Player of the Week. ⭐️ pic.twitter.com/M1qFDaFrRf— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) January 21, 2026 OFFICIAL: Vini Jr. nominated for UCL Player of the Week. Should win it.
Or you guys are making this minor award bigger than it actually is because of you know, narrative. No one is really gonna be happy or sad about this.
If Monaco had cooked Vini you’d have turned it into a dissertation. Now it’s suddenly too small to matter. Convenient scale shifting at its finest.
Lol don't mind him.. he is betting on Vinicius playing poor and us having bad results We have the best "fans"
Such an ironic statement from a person who can't grasp form drops, people aren't changing their personalities every other month and every player who you don't like isn't trash who should be sold. You can't even process in 1D and you're talking about 3D
Who said he changed his personality in over a month? He was being massaged into being the brat he is for years by Perez and co. So which players are those btw?