All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    It's alright, you cant take it seriously because you can’t refute it. All you’ve got is sad attempt at spamming ROFL emojis which is basically your whole posting style in one screenshot.
     
  2. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    Are you implying Vini was whistled for missing a few passes or shots, not his insubordination and undermining of the manager?
     
  3. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    I’m implying the Bernabeu whistles for literally everything when it’s in a bad mood. Bad touch, missed dribble, lazy jog, wrong decision or facial expression & wrong weather.

    Perez didn’t fire Xabi because Vini secretly ran a coup. He got fired because results and control were slipping and the board smelled weakness.

    Players can be emotional and still not be plotting a regime change.
     
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  4. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    The Bernabeu’s whistles are not that aimless, you are being disingenuous.

    No one is suggesting Vini secretly ran a coup, but all the reporting shows he undermined a manager who was brought on to bring a new system to Madrid, one that required more discipline from its players, both tactically and physically. He did the outburst and the nonapology in public and was widely reported to complain to Perez and refuse to negotiate an extension until things with Xabi changed.
     
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  5. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Don't bother explaining. It's a waste of time. She doesn't even know why the socios whistle players.
     
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  6. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Most of what you’re calling reporting is leaks and headline economics. No quotes, no receipts. Just the same old Madrid soap opera template where a star “complained to Perez” and refused to negotiate and undermined discipline because it makes a cleaner story than ?? “The coach could not get buy in and the football went stale.”

    The reporters gave Xabi chance to defend Vini & what was his reply? "fans have rights to express opinions". Now contrast that against how arbeloa is approaching towards it.

    Also, the whistles are not some laser guided morality system. You can pretend it only activates for insubordination if it helps your narrative, but everyone who’s watched the Bernabeu for more than 10 matches knows it runs on emotion and impatience.
     
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  7. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    Nope, read the Athletic article I uploaded, it is far from just a clickbait headline. The reporting is highly professional, owned and operated by the NY Times, includes quotes, and identifies where its anonymous sources come from to the extent they are allowed. And don’t try some Trumpian “anonymous sources just means fake sources” nonsense when we’re talking about a respectable news outlet.
     
  8. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The actual confirmed bits don’t need fan fiction. Vini had the tunnel outburst >>apologized>>Xabi publicly closed the matter with no punishment. This is just as true as Xabi denying to provide deserved protection to vini in press. (since that's actually on cam)

    Athletic linked that tension to role, rotation, contract talks stalling. Acceptable.
    None of that turns the Bernabeu into some precision guided ethics tribunal that only whistles so called insubordination.

    So stop inflating it into a courtroom verdict where one player “undermined a system” and the stadium delivered righteous justice. Madrid fired a coach because control and results were slipped.
     
  9. pramod

    pramod Member+

    Realmadrid
    Sep 4, 2006
    Hyderabad @ India
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    The statement that you made is just a rumor, one that was fabricated by the Spanish media, and if you were to ask the Spanish media, they would say that Perez and the Barca president are spending their time relaxing together while enjoying beer.
     
  10. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    You're free to eff off and go support a team that plays on a ground you feel more aligned with your beliefs then.

    Tired of this. Honestly.

    People hate Spain as a country, hate the people, hate the league, wish people would at least be honest with themselves and accept that there isn't much they like about this club other than star cult and winning.
     
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  11. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    She's just playing the role of antagonist much like what she did with Hazard. She somehow likes that kind of attention in an effed up way.

    If it was TAA who had heat for example, she would be spamming that narrative instead. She doesn't even post much outside of this schtick.
     
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  12. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    Vini after hearing the boos against him in the match vs. Levante: he didn’t show the Mamba mentality. he went in a different direction, straight into the Jordan mentality.

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  13. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Quit waving the Spain flag to cover a tantrum. People can love Madrid and still call out dumb whistles and ugliness without being told to go support someone else. Gatekeeping the badge like this is the real star cult.

    You’ve reached the “make up a personality profile because you can’t win the argument” stage. Congrats!

    When you’ve got football points, use them. Until then enjoy writing fanfic about strangers because defending a madrid player short circuits your lil brain.
     
  14. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You are in no place of criticizing those who invest in the club to keep it what it is. Your criticizm has the same kind of value as a bug on the windshield of an 18 wheeler truck transporting goods cross country. You might be along for the ride, but you're neither carrying the weight, or part of the product that's being transported.

    Never forget that foreign fans with no kind of membership or financial ties to the club are nothing but customers.

    Bernabeu this, Bernabeu that, go there and do it better then and shut up.
     
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  15. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Here’s the thing though. You don’t get a moral monopoly on madridismo because you have a membership card. Being a socio means you vote n you pay. It doesn’t mean your takes become holy scripture & everyone else becomes a bug.

    Calling fans “customers” like it’s an insult is hilarious. This club is a global machine. it’s built on millions of people watching, buying shirts, filling tours, that makes Madrid, Madrid. Acting like the brand is carried only by the people inside one stadium section is your fantasy.

    You can flex your membership. nobody’s impressed. Madridismo isn’t a gated community.
    There's a standard to it & right nowit has to be go back the team inside the stadium.
     
  16. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    I am embarrassed that people like you support this club.

    This isn't a discussion and no matter what you respond is going to change that. I respect your opinion as a fan less than I do that of a Barca fan.
     
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  17. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Be embarrassed. idgaf

    You’re not the madridismo bouncer handing out wristbands based on postcode and membership receipts.:rolleyes: If you respect a Barca fan more than someone backing Madrid’s own players, that tells everyone exactly what you’re here for. Just ego and gatekeeping.
     
  18. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Of course I'm not, I'm also just a customer, I'm just fully aware of that. If I want to criticize the Bernabeu and it's local fanbase, I can book a ticket and do BETTER.

    Sitting at home and criticizing the exact thing this club stands for while contributing nothing to its success is a ridiculous way to act.
     
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  19. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Booking a ticket doesn’t magically turn your takes into gospel, it just means you paid for a seat. You’d 100% join the whistles choir the first time the crowd mood swings & then call it “standards” like everyone else.

    Every fan contributes. Attention/money, atmosphere & global pull. This club is funded by scale. Acting like only the people physically in the stadium have the right to opinions is called elitism
     
  20. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    You might have missed the part where I said it's not a discussion.

    If I'd be growing up learning about this game, the state of the club and it's fanbase would drive me away from it right now. I know you see it differently because that is the EXACT reason for it.
     
  21. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I see it differently because I want the Bernabeu to be a weapon against opponents more than a stress test for our own players. If your idea of madridismo is boo first, applaud later while gatekeeping anyone who disagrees, then yes, we’re not aligned. And Im fine with it.
     
  22. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    The weapon against our opponents is lining up a roster that costs 500 mil. against rosters that cost 5.
     
  23. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If money was the only weapon, PSG would have a fully packed trophy cabinet right now. but they dont

    I dont think the sport is that simple where the richer team automatically wins. Underdogs park a bus, nick a goal, use timewasting techniques, kick guys around n turn it ugly, suddenly your 500m weapon is jogging into traffic. That’s when the stadium matters. Noise, pressure & fear.
     
  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Again, if you don't like the fans and how they support the team, go and do better. It's a free economy and a free world. You can book a flight tomorrow and show them how it's done.

    Why do we have to listen to that shit. Go and show them how it's done.
     
  25. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia
    I wanna see an argument break out between @undertow and @Lyra

    I think the timeline would collapse though
     
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