All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I mean we had a terrible performance and are falling apart and you come here to post about dude’s passion lol
     
    Aensensen, boeder, Galatico and 4 others repped this.
  2. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Now you’re acting like mentioning a player’s passion during a meltdown is some kind of war crime. the team is falling apart, that’s exactly why people point to the guys who still play like their chest is on fire instead of sleepwalking like half the squad.

    And in case you didnt notice, the other post was reply to applebob who did come here blaming vini for it & how he can't play vs City (despite the team having a terrible performance and we falling apart)

    It's funny how that "we don't care" attitude only shows up when vini's being defended. the rest of the time he's public enemy #1 for breathing too loudly.
     
  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nothing says passion like a short trip to Dubai during the week. I'm assuming traveling around the world is also part of the new positional freedom the players got from Xabi.
     
    Aensensen and Galatico repped this.
  4. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He has to play against City. Not like we have many options and this is a must win. Plus he will likely play well as this team seems to take turns on games

    but right now bragging about any of our player’s passion after they collectively laid an egg seems out place
     
  5. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    cool, by that logic trashing individuals like they personally handed Celta the keys to the stadium is just as out of place. It goes both ways. you don’t get to hand out gag orders only when someone says something positive.

    The team laid an egg, sure. nobody’s denying that. but acting like mentioning someone’s fire or effort breaks the vibe is just weird.
     
  6. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    I mean you must be new to sports, but typically players get praise when the team performs and get criticized when they don’t. The team was bad today, not one player deserves any praise as the attitude was terrible until we got a red card, truly shameful stuff
     
    Galatico and boeder repped this.
  7. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid


    Hes a headless chicken. The thing I hate most about his game is when he gets himself in a corner by his own fault because he overestimates his speed, he just decides to kick it toward the box to no one. Just randomly kick and hope for the best. And its usually a counterattack after that. He does it over and over again. A winger that never anticipates defenders reactions, never uses their own movements to gain an advantage. So tired of his hero ball act. Hes not that guy. And if someone (like the coach) tells him that, he will flip out.
     
  8. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #11858 Lyra, Dec 8, 2025
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2025
    “Only praise when they win, only criticism when they lose” is the kind of take people have before they learn what tactics, roles or context even are. real sports don’t work like FIFA career mode where everyone gets +3 morale after a win and -3 after a loss.

    Attitude was terrible? sure. but you turning it into this blanket moral statement is just lazy. Teams can stink as a whole while individuals still show fight, effort, or intent
    He's trying to create something out of nothing because the team's shape is gone and there's no buildup play. it's either try a dribble or a hopeful cross, or just pass it sideways to another player who's also marked. You're blaming him for "hero ball" in a match where the team literally needed a hero because we were getting outplayed and down a man. what's the alternative? tiki-taka with nine outfield players against an organized defense?

    It was a terrible team performance. singling him out with lazy "headless chicken" takes ignores the context of the entire match falling apart.


    hilarious how you guys pretend these players live in cages between matches. Newsflash: modern pros recover, travel, train, rest, repeat. Dubai isn’t the reason the backline imploded or the coach cooked up a tactical souffle that sank in real time.
     
  9. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    ******** sake we were getting outplayed because of hero ball. Yes if you dont have any options recycle and restart, dont gift them the ball. I could also go out in his place and play like that, are you going to say then "oh well at least Hendrix was trying to create something out of nothing"? Its the definition of stupidity to constantly try to do what you clearly are not capable of doing and fail at it. Context? The context is this guy thinks of himself as the second coming but actually hes just a good winger. Stop hiding behind this abstract language and phraseology. He is supposed to use his freaking brain when he attacks. Hes supposed to have a plan, adapt to the circumstances, make decisions and do this fast. At times he looks like a ********ing amateur out there.
     
  10. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    First off “we were getting outplayed because of hero ball” is a galaxy brain revisionism. The team was getting sliced because the midfield was a ghost town, the fullbacks were doing impressions of traffic cones and we were down a man.
    You want him to “recycle”? recycle to who? the midfield that was losing every duel? The fullbacks that were already halfway to being sent off

    You would pull a hamstring jogging out of the tunnel. Vini doing too much is still infinitely more useful than you doing anything. let’s stay humble here.

    You don’t like being reminded of context because it ruins your neat little narrative where everything is Vini’s fault. In your books one of the’s the most double teamed player in the league & the focal point of every defensive plan is just a "good winger"Okay then.
     
    laundromat repped this.
  11. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    No everything is not Vini's fault, but its his fault more than most other players because he does 100 times more stupid decisions than others and hes positionally lost more than anyone else. He doesnt provide 100 times more danger than others so give me a break with the double teamed and gocal point of defensive plans. So is Doku, Leao, Lookman and every other good winger out there. They adapt to it and use it to greater effect. Just because Vini is double teamed doesnt mean he has the excuse to do stupid shit all the time and then walk back because "eh I tried". Either dont do stupid shit by using your brain once in a while, or be constantly involved defensively. Its that simple.

    And the player got sent off in the 90th minute, wtf are you talking about.
     
  12. Marisoccerfan

    Marisoccerfan Member

    Real Madrid
    Argentina
    Oct 14, 2025
    This is entertaining. :D
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    How many modern pros have you accompanied to an entire game week or for a pre season camp?
     
  14. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You can criticize him without pretending he’s the sole problem or that his situation is comparable to wingers who operate with far less attention on them. Doku, Leao, Lookman get space to attack into. Vini gets a full defensive shift tilted toward him before he even touches the ball.

    Nobody said he’s above criticism. but it's exhausting turning every conversation into this hyperfixation about how he’s the root of all evil. People are discussing game flow, momentum, form….and you’re in here rewriting the Bible of Vini’s crimes. When I said “playing with nine,” it wasn’t about the literal headcount on the pitch. it was the vibe. the energy drop. the team basically looked a man down way before the card ever showed up. you didn’t need the ref to hold up a piece of plastic to see half the midfield switching off and the backline spacing out.


    Nobody has to shadow a squad through a whole preseason to understand the basics of how modern pros live. These guys aren’t chained to treadmills in some monastery of discipline.
     
  15. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Vini will show up for City, that much I know. Unless we have a collective plan to get Xabi fired
     
  16. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You could have simply said "none" or "i have never done that, i am just assuming how this works".
     
    MaxY repped this.
  17. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This City?

    upload_2025-12-8_14-21-48.png
     
  18. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    They seem to have a magic city in every city it seems lol
     
  19. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Right hes unique in the world in terms of the attention given to him.

    Moving on.
     
  20. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You’re acting like this is some courtroom cross examination where I’ve gotta answer yes or no. The whole point is that your question doesn’t prove what you think it proves.

    Nobody needs to be glued to a player’s hip for seven days to understand how a modern squad functions.
     
  21. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm trying to say you don't know what the f*** you're talking about.
     
    Galatico, Aensensen and MaxY repped this.
  22. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    That line is just a placeholder you’re using instead of explaining your own argument.

    And that’s fine if you’re venting, but don’t pretend it’s some knockout punch.
     
  23. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    There is no argument. Going on a vacation while others are working on beating you means you're surrendering an advantage to the opponent.

    It's pretty easy.
     
  24. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If you actually think our entire competitive edge hinges on one player skipping a midweek nap while everyone else “worked,” cool. but don’t pretend that’s the obvious airtight logic you think it is. it’s just a clean slogan you’re throwing at a messy situation.....

    You’re boiling a complex collective issue down to a postcard from Dubai because it’s the easiest narrative to hold on to.
     
  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's unprofessional and shows the players don't care. I'm right about this, and i will not argue about it.
     

Share This Page